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Is pizza really a vegetable?

You may have heard that the U.S. Congress recently reaffirmed that pizza is a vegetable. Of course, the situation is more complicated than that. The U.S. Department of Agriculture—which regulates the school lunches served to millions of American children—proposed a new standard for school lunches. Specifically, they suggested reducing the amount of sodium in school lunches, and they also wanted to cut down on french fries and pizza. As it stands, two tablespoons of tomato paste (the amount that goes on a one-serving pizza) counts as a vegetable. The USDA suggested raising that to half a cup, which would mean that a one-serving pizza would no longer be a vegetable. Last week, Congress nixed these new regulations and reaffirmed that two tablespoons of tomato paste counts as a vegetable. (If you are old enough, this may remind you of President Ronald Reagan declaring ketchup to be a vegetable in 1982. The difference however is that Reagan never succeeded in implementing that suggestion.)

Depending on who you ask, a single food (or word, for that matter) may be classified in any number of ways. A scale performs a different function for a chef than for a personal trainer. One measures food, the other a person. Sometimes the difference in classification can be attributed to regional dialects. For example, depending on where you live in the United States, you may call a sweet carbonated beverage coke, pop or soda. (Read more about that fraught debate here.) In other cases, the common, or colloquial, definition does not match the technical, scientific definition.

The word “vegetable” comes from the Latin word vegere which meant “to be alive or active,” but it did not denote anything about food. For a long time the word “vegetable” was used synonymously with the word “plant.” As late as 1858, Oliver Wendell Holmes called both trees and peaches “vegetables,” in his book The Autocrat of the Breakfast-Table.

What are vegetables now? Well, that depends on who you ask. Botanists, nutritionists, government agencies, and everyday people all hold contradictory opinions on the matter. Let’s take the example of two tablespoons of tomato sauce. We already know what Congress thinks of that, but what does the USDA recommended nutrition think of it? Tomatoes are part of the family of “Red or Orange Vegetables” which also includes squash, carrots and red peppers. Botanists would say that tomatoes are Solanum lycopersicum, and we technically eat the fruit of the plant. (Genetically speaking, the tomato is very closely related to the potato.) According to nutritionists anything from beets (which are roots) to spinach (which are leaves) to tomatoes (which are fruits) count as “vegetables.” They are typically rich in nutrients and low in fat and protein. The main difference between fruits and vegetables are that fruits are sweet (and higher in sugar) and vegetables are savory (and lower in sugar). Find out what makes a berry a berry here.

Today vegetables have gotten a bad rap. They are seen as flavorless and disgusting, even though there are some desserts (carrot cake for one) that are made with “vegetables.” Maybe the word is the problem.

What do you think counts as a vegetable? Does the word itself change your feelings toward it?

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  5. Mike -  March 19, 2012 - 11:22 pm

    Maybe those in Congress are vegetables? Or more likely Fruits — afterall, look into their private lives and it’s a bit Seedy.

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  6. Rustgold -  February 25, 2012 - 2:12 pm

    Quote Toni Pop: “So if i put two tablespoons of tomato sauce on a congressman, does that make him a vegetable?”

    No, because they’re already classified as vegetables.

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  7. Bobie -  January 29, 2012 - 2:44 pm

    Growing up in Kenya we were always taught that vegetables only gave one nutrients, e.g. vitamins A, B and such; but now in the UK, I am made to understand that Potatoes are vegetables too… Kinda mind boggling for me

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  8. Person The-Person -  January 29, 2012 - 10:09 am

    Haha! You guys are ALL hilarious! I would comment on many of the various subjects mentioned in this(interesting and lively) discussion, and there are a great many comments that I long to comment on myself(I read all of them, every one) but there’s just too many and too much too say and besides, you have said it all! And have been very entertaining in the process. Maybe I’ll read these discussions more often….

    And @ Artemis Faye
    luv yur name! and lol yeah I was thinking of Hetalia as well. And love the name of #1 Skillet Fan, they’re awesome!

    And @ Everyone!!!( I mean EVERY1!!!, not some1 who’s name is Everyone!!!)
    keep
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    stuff!!
    This was a great way to start a Sunday morning XD

    also: love the random comments! Lol, people are getting fussy over pizza and politics, and some random people are just like “hi” or “what time is it… ??????” or they’re talking about cookies or something. Lmfao
    like lordokagi or emoxziita or Cyberquill (or Tabatha♥ or Musical Root)

    ALSO also:love the funny names

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  9. Hamachisn't -  January 28, 2012 - 7:34 pm

    This article has not cleared up the question to my satisfaction. I was hoping to confirm or deny my personal point of view, that the difference between a fruit and a vegetable is whether the edible part has seeds. According to my belief, tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, and squash are all fruits, and leafy or root vegetables are, well, vegetables.

    The wikipedia article on fruit begins by saying “In broad terms, a fruit is a structure of a plant that contains its seeds.” The wikipedia article on vegetable begins by saying “The noun vegetable means an edible plant or part of a plant, but usually excludes seeds and most sweet fruit. This typically means the leaf, stem, or root of a plant but also includes some fruits as well (such as squash).”

    I guess I was close.

    On an unrelated topic, twice this article says “Depending/depends on who you ask…” Should that not be “whom” instead of “who”?

    –H

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  10. Jord -  January 28, 2012 - 1:37 pm

    A fruit is such because it is the swollen ovary of a plant that has grown out of the flower, and it usually contains seeds. A vegetable is the energy storage portion of a plant such as a potato, or the photosynthetic portion of the plant, such as spinach leaves.

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  11. Bob -  January 23, 2012 - 3:45 pm

    Look what America has come to. I think the qualifications on what a vegtable is should be changed, seriously vegtables have to be a plant of any kind and has to have no seeds.

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  12. Joel -  January 9, 2012 - 2:00 pm

    Is pepper a fruit* was what i meant to say

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  13. Joel -  January 9, 2012 - 1:59 pm

    @Erika: Are you stupid? A tomato is completely a vegetable. Okay so it has seeds. So does pepper! Is pepper a vegetable? I think not.

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  14. Mr. D [A.K.A] Elysian -  December 21, 2011 - 10:42 am

    To any1 saying tomatoes are fruits, The Supreme Court ruled in 1893 that the tomato is a vegetable.

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  15. Musical Root -  December 15, 2011 - 9:49 am

    I hate vegetables. Yes, really. Nasty blighters, I want to see them die. In fact I became a vegetarian so that I could be the cause of more vegetable deaths. Bwa-ha-ha-haa.

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  16. L-guy -  December 13, 2011 - 7:30 pm

    PIZZA IS NOT A VEGGIE!!!!!!!

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  17. ely -  December 7, 2011 - 8:48 pm

    veg·e·ta·ble   [vej-tuh-buhl, vej-i-tuh-] Show IPA
    noun
    1.
    any plant whose fruit, seeds, roots, tubers, bulbs, stems, leaves, or flower parts are used as food, as the tomato, bean, beet, potato, onion, asparagus, spinach, or cauliflower.
    2.
    the edible part of such a plant, as the tuber of the potato.
    3.
    any member of the vegetable kingdom; plant.
    4.
    Informal . a person who is so severely impaired mentally or physically as to be largely incapable of conscious responses or activity.
    5.
    a dull, spiritless, and uninteresting person.

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  18. ely -  December 7, 2011 - 8:46 pm

    how is tomato paste a vegetable when tomatoes are fruits

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  19. Victoria -  December 6, 2011 - 5:50 pm

    I love pizza mostly pepperoni pizza

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  20. Nyantales -  December 6, 2011 - 5:44 pm

    if pizza is a vegetable then should we call vegetables pizza?

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  21. LadyGuapo -  December 2, 2011 - 4:07 pm

    The only reason Congress has said pizza is a vegetable is the simple fact of money. Congress approves the (now cut even more) budget for the public school system, with part of that allowance being used for school lunches. (Those of us parents that pay for our children’s lunches: the schools don’t necessarily use that money for the purchase of food.) Pizza is the cheapest item for schools to serve on the American public school lunch menu. If the USDA takes away pizza (which I agree should at least be lowered), Congress will have to give more money (although, eventually it too would be taken away) to our Department of Education to disperse among the school systems. Just my thoughts.

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  22. Maicoh -  December 2, 2011 - 12:56 pm

    HAAAAA to ALL of the comments!!!…..(and some of us think that WEEEE are a bit “off”!!???)…..SEEDS=FRUIT!..(oh wait, I guess humans have “seeds” too- ;P) Ask a Vegan if pizza is a veg & I’m sure they would puke. This IS, however, an extremely humorous way of divulging congresssssses stupidity! ;D

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  23. #1 Skillet Fan -  November 30, 2011 - 8:58 am

    @ Toni Pop: Hillarious!

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  24. Herman -  November 29, 2011 - 5:43 pm

    Okay, let me get this straight; Pizza = vegetable because it has vegetables on it? Now that is crazy. So Congress, let me ask you a question: If i put oregano on my house, its a vegetable? Just because something has vegetables on it doesn’t mean it’s a vegetable. And also, kids love pizza and sometimes they hate vegetables. No with the information you are giving, children are officially afraid to eat pizza! YA HAPPY!?!

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  25. austin -  November 29, 2011 - 2:57 pm

    however much i may like pizza (which is a lot), i do not agree with this. tomatoes are fruit, and pizzas are not veggies because of the carbs and what not. even though i may be beginning high school, this is unacceptable.

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  26. F -  November 25, 2011 - 6:45 am

    MMMM PIZZA

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  27. Patti (PJ) -  November 24, 2011 - 6:25 pm

    To me, pizza (except for cheese only) should be considered a meal as long as it is more than one slice. You have your bread (the crust) veggies tomato sauce and meat pepperoni, hamburger, or the like. They could also make vegitarian pizzas with bell peppers, and other veggies. I mean if CiCi’s pizza can do a Mac and cheese pizza, the sky’s the limit. I do however think they should be served more than one slice and have a salad with it.

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  28. Waldo Pepper -  November 23, 2011 - 3:54 pm

    FIRST!!

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  29. Fox -  November 23, 2011 - 10:45 am

    The only pizza that can be considered a vegetable is a vegetarian pizza

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  30. Elizabeth -  November 23, 2011 - 9:38 am

    Your name @ The Penguin King also reflects the state of you intellect. …So yeah..just had to point that out.

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  31. Elizabeth -  November 23, 2011 - 9:36 am

    I’m laughing @ The Penguin King… don’t tell me to shove them in my mouth cause you don’t hear me complaining about this article itself. I’m complaining about the tasteless people opposing it….

    Laughing @ Cyberquill too.. that’s truly a great comment especially since it’s a racist comment…..

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  32. cookie -  November 23, 2011 - 9:24 am

    ok comment if you think pizzas good and can be a veggie

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  33. Tabatha♥ -  November 23, 2011 - 9:21 am

    i love me! Hello to all my fello franns …… Maria… Sarah…. Kiara….. Agheana…

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  34. Tabatha♥ -  November 23, 2011 - 7:47 am

    yah yah yah you all should just drop the subject because veg. keep you healthy and pizza just makes you FAT…….

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  35. sara -  November 23, 2011 - 6:15 am

    yes i dont think it should be considered as a vegetable. it may be made from vegetables, but it cannot, ever in this good world, be a vegetable. and what? ketchup as a vege?!?!? are you kidding me…..no…ok… just no…..

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  36. Tabatha♥ -  November 23, 2011 - 6:07 am

    my sissy Is COOKIE….. (: hi cookie hows your class going for ya?

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  37. cookie -  November 23, 2011 - 6:04 am

    well I like it i love pizza I really do not care if it is a veggie or not you no its not healthy so do not eat is

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  38. Anonymous -  November 22, 2011 - 9:01 pm

    That’s politics for ya.

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  39. Sam Montana -  November 22, 2011 - 8:38 pm

    Take a look at how most of our politicians look. You think they know what is healthy. They are the most unhealthy looking group of people I have ever seen. More nonsense from Congress and people who have no clue what healthy food is all about.

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  40. Cyberquill -  November 22, 2011 - 4:41 pm

    Nothing more uppity-ish than a pizza that thinks it’s a vegetable.

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  41. Svenjamin -  November 22, 2011 - 4:00 pm

    I think the Congress’s point would be that pizza may fulfill the daily requirement of one serving of vegetables. Come on, people!!! Do you really think that even Congress would be ignorant enough to actually proclaim that pizza is a vegetable?!?!? Of course, this article is written in a manner that would have you believe that, but it doesn’t spell out the actual message: kids (all people who want to be healthy) need a certain amount of veggies per day. Now that I’ve defended Congress a bit, I need to say that to contend that the tomato sauce on pizza is equivalent to a serving of vegetables is absurd!!! Try to read past the semantics of this article’s title and understand the content that says: “As it stands, two tablespoons of tomato paste (the amount that goes on a one-serving pizza) counts as a vegetable.”

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  42. ElPizzaLoco -  November 22, 2011 - 3:03 pm

    So pizza is a veggie – wow! Where can I get some pizza seeds? I’ll just plant a whole row of them suckers.

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  43. andres -  November 22, 2011 - 2:41 pm

    This is another success from the government in making the english language more ambiguous than it already is. One day, we will call dinner: shoe. Sure why no? If you can assure that pizza is a vegetable, what cant you do? Pizza being now known as vegetable is ridiculous, its composed of other ingredients that arent even vegetables. Does that mean now that a hamburger with lettuce, onions and tomatoes is a salad? Please! Sadly, I assure that this statement is arguably true due to the simple fact is partly correct. Is absurd how you nominate pizza a vegetable when clearly it isn’t. Grow me a pizza and I’ll comply with the U.S. Congress.

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  44. natalie beato -  November 22, 2011 - 2:22 pm

    OMG i love the idea of pizza made a vagatabel beacouse that would make dieting sooo much easier

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  45. Elizabeth -  November 22, 2011 - 2:19 pm

    thanks @ Amy ;) Someone who can actually appreciate the finer things in life like be able to go up to my parents and saying I’m eating vegetables while the whole time I’m eating pizza.=D THAT is love at its finest.

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  46. lordokagi -  November 22, 2011 - 2:07 pm

    i like pizza…
    plea..se…
    DONT ATTACK ME I DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG!!!!! *bawling*

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  47. morons -  November 22, 2011 - 1:56 pm

    And people wonder why america is bankrupt.

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  48. Starrynight568 -  November 22, 2011 - 1:56 pm

    First of all, even Dictionary.com says it, a vegetable is any plant whose fruit, seeds, roots, tubers, bulbs, stems, leaves, or flower parts are used as food, as the tomato, bean, beet, potato, onion, asparagus, spinach, or cauliflower.
    Pizza is NOT a plant, and doesn’t pizza sometimes has pepperoni? If vegetarians ate vegetables and pizza were a vegetable, that means they would have to eat the pepperoni, making pepperoni a vegetable, too.

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  49. megan -  November 22, 2011 - 1:47 pm

    this is soo freaking funny man i laugh everytime i read these comments and the people in class think i’m insane for just bursting out…

    CAN’T WAIT FOR THE NEXT HOT WORD!

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  50. Lola B. -  November 22, 2011 - 1:29 pm

    First of all…. vegetables are grown, can you grow pizza?…. if so, then where can I find the seeds?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Im just kidding;)

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  51. The Penguin King -  November 22, 2011 - 1:21 pm

    oh, and @Pizza Disaster : Pineapples are NOT meat. they are fruits.

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  52. 36075300 -  November 22, 2011 - 1:18 pm

    Finally, if you’re posting to tell the rest of the world what an idiot someone is, please, have enough pride to proofread what you wrote and to correct the spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors. Otherwise, you’re telling the world that you’re an idiot.

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  53. neekeer -  November 22, 2011 - 1:18 pm

    wtf…. pizza is good but not vegetablee,…

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  54. The Penguin King -  November 22, 2011 - 1:17 pm

    @mark: wow, you’re dumb as congress.
    @Sam-i-am:It’s funny that you’re talking about how stupid congress is (which they’re) when you typed half the words wrong.
    @elizabeth: i’d rather take my veggies and shove them in your mouth! get a life.
    @all who said tomato is a veggie: no they are not.
    and finally, @congress: pizza is not a veggie.
    all i’ve to say.

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  55. neekeer -  November 22, 2011 - 1:00 pm

    tte amo barbara

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  56. Barbara sepulveda -  November 22, 2011 - 12:53 pm

    I think what you meant to say is that a slice of pizza classifies as providing a source of vegetables as it has tomato sauce on it. That’s what’s really going on here. I don’t know if congress literally said, “Pizza is a vegetable,” but I think what was meant here is simply that pizza has vegetables on it. Totally different. Pizza is not a vegetable but it does have vegetables on it, even though the tomato is technically a fruit.

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  57. Barbara sepulveda -  November 22, 2011 - 12:52 pm

    Now, that leaves lots of questions unanswered and plenty to debate: Should any amount of processed tomato paste count as a vegetable serving? How are the rest of the ingredients in the pizza classified? What other nutritional requirements must a cafeteria meal satisfy? And so on . . . Those are the kinds of things that could be intelligently and rationally discussed in a forum like this.

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  58. Alloway -  November 22, 2011 - 12:37 pm

    Why is pizza a vegetable? A vegetable is a type of food that does not have seeds inside and is grown from the ground. Most of pizza’s ingredients certainly are grown from the ground but that does not mean pizza is a vegetable. I mean, it has pepperoni and sausages and pineapple!

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  59. pengwen -  November 22, 2011 - 12:31 pm

    Judging the part as a whole.
    Is a book called a word?
    Am i a finger, because I have a finger?
    Is a computer a button?
    Is that directly what it is?
    -Pizza contains tomato paste.
    Tomato paste is a vegetable.
    Therefore pizza is a vegetable.-
    this is an unreasonable syollogism because the verbs are not identical.
    ..not to mention tomato paste is not a vegetable-it’s part of a vegetable. -or is it? rethink America….We voted these people to office….we’re doomed.

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  60. Carbonated Chocolate Cake -  November 22, 2011 - 12:14 pm

    Thank you, Unknown! I feel that way too! :)

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  61. Jessica -  November 22, 2011 - 12:12 pm

    Congress should focus on more important things than pizza.

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  62. daisy -  November 22, 2011 - 12:10 pm

    so cool babe

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  63. daisy -  November 22, 2011 - 12:09 pm

    so cool

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  64. CHICKENNNNNNN -  November 22, 2011 - 11:41 am

    OLAAAAAA AMEGO GRACEOUS ME LIKE NONE OF Z ANSWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  65. bob -  November 22, 2011 - 11:09 am

    if pizzas a veggi then cows are envolpopes

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  66. anonymous -  November 22, 2011 - 11:05 am

    This may have been stated already, but, the author of this “article” should be reprimanded for such a blatant misrepresentation of the facts! Congress did not state that a pizza is a vegetable; merely, that a pizza can be COUNTED as a SERVING of the FRUITS/VEGETABLES category defined by the FDA because of the TOMATO PASTE that is the sauce on the pizza. It is incomprehensible that such nonsense has made it to such a reputable site such as dictionary.com; this is truly shameful! Furthermore, shame on all the readers that did not research this obviously outlandish claim! A quick visit to the Google search engine reveals the truth:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-as-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html

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  67. Sean Nesmith -  November 22, 2011 - 10:53 am

    But, if a tomato is a fruit (since it has seeds), doesn’t that make pizza a fruit?

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  68. David -  November 22, 2011 - 10:53 am

    Isnt’ a tomato a fruit?

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  69. Cole -  November 22, 2011 - 10:49 am

    Really America? Really pizza a veggy fail

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  70. Jared -  November 22, 2011 - 10:42 am

    another win for pizza fanatics

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  71. Jay Elopp -  November 22, 2011 - 10:23 am

    By the way, obesity is on the rise once more… This is only encouragement…

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  72. Jay Elopp -  November 22, 2011 - 10:17 am

    absurb*

    And people, this is a place to comment–not a place to debate.

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  73. emoxziita'' love ninizz... -  November 22, 2011 - 9:50 am

    olaaa… periillla Q’ee as estadoo asiiendoo… pero la netaa iio hee estado muyy qonttenttaa por lo qq me pasoo esta nopcheee…

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  74. MSB -  November 22, 2011 - 9:36 am

    This reminds me of the Bill Cosby joke where he fed his kids chocolate cake for breakfast. Why? Because it was made with milk and eggs and wheat. Nutrition!

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  75. Iza -  November 22, 2011 - 9:25 am

    I am a young person and I know even at my age that pizza should not be a vegetable. I mean who is going to say “here is meat and three veg” and serve pizza with pepperoni and two vegetables on! I mean really people should really eat a balanced diet especially at schools. Can you imagine bringing up a child with them thing pizza is a vegetable (or at least eating it counts as one of your five a day!!!!)

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  76. Saucy Aussie -  November 22, 2011 - 9:21 am

    If the tomato paste is the determining factor, then they failed yet AGAIN. Last time I checked tomato was a FRUIT.

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  77. isay cabello.. -  November 22, 2011 - 9:20 am

    i go to the school hoooo”’!!!! No why… u.u

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  78. emoxziita''love -  November 22, 2011 - 9:11 am

    now when I eat a whole box of dominos pizza, i wont feel as fat

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  79. emoxziita''love -  November 22, 2011 - 9:08 am

    my name in emoxziita lovee” and i love pizza….. n.n

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  80. isay -  November 22, 2011 - 9:08 am

    im fluffy and i know it

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  81. cookie -  November 22, 2011 - 9:06 am

    pizza is good but not a veggie

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  82. Me Myself and I -  November 22, 2011 - 8:54 am

    Pizza a veggie? HA!

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  83. FRANK -  November 22, 2011 - 8:48 am

    Of all the comments I read, I only saw one that seemed to have been written by a person who wasn’t accepting an oversimplified statement as fact. Nobody in Congress made the statement, “Pizza is a vegetable.” That didn’t happen. The tomato paste on the pizza counts as a vegetable, or, more specifically, the tomato paste is seen to satisfy the nutritional requirements as a serving of vegetables. That is not new. The USDA proposed changing the AMOUNT of tomato paste that would qualify as a vegetable serving. Essentially, had they succeeded, a kid who got a slice of pizza would also have to choose an extra vegetable to put on his plate. Congress rejected that proposal, so things will remain as they have been.

    Now, that leaves lots of questions unanswered and plenty to debate: Should any amount of processed tomato paste count as a vegetable serving? How are the rest of the ingredients in the pizza classified? What other nutritional requirements must a cafeteria meal satisfy? And so on . . . Those are the kinds of things that could be intelligently and rationally discussed in a forum like this.

    This is not an article about whether our elected officials are idiots, morons, corrupt, out of touch . . . That can be a valid discussion to have, but it’s not the point here. This is also not about whether a tomato is a fruit or a vegetable. As the article points out, it can be defined as either depending on the purpose of the definition.

    Finally, if you’re posting to tell the rest of the world what an idiot someone is, please, have enough pride to proofread what you wrote and to correct the spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors. Otherwise, you’re telling the world that you’re an idiot.

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  84. Tai -  November 22, 2011 - 8:44 am

    Ohmy. This is an interesting topic of choice. I see how Pizza could be a veggie, but it still contains the fats and oils and stuff. I think if you look at it as what does vegetable REALLY mean, shows what pizza would be. On top of that tomatoes are classified as fruit. So really, wouldn’t pizza be a fruit?

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  85. Serge Palain -  November 22, 2011 - 8:34 am

    This was the most important thing in the world, and was required to be discussed in U.S. Congress. :)

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  86. Amy -  November 22, 2011 - 8:34 am

    Oh and Elizabeth…with the hippie comment. I second that!

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  87. Amy -  November 22, 2011 - 8:32 am

    I don’t care either way but this makes me laugh because we joke around with my pizza-obsessed friend that he needs to be healthier…well now look, he eats vegetables EVERYday (even though his pizza choices are bacon and barbecue chicken bacon….). Also, Erika, learn to spell absurd then you can make fun of this article.

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  88. justine javaluyas -  November 22, 2011 - 8:24 am

    no it is a bread

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  89. Kami Fillman -  November 22, 2011 - 8:21 am

    I LIKE PIZZA, YUM, YUM! It better not be a vegetable or i wont eat it. You guys are stpid. I lik piza net bein a vetable!

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  90. Erica -  November 22, 2011 - 8:20 am

    Theres obviously something wrong here if we’re going to consider pizza a veggetable :P there’s so much fat put into that junk, its sad enough everyone is putting veggetables on their pizza and trying to call it healthy

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  91. Ed -  November 22, 2011 - 8:15 am

    @nina:

    “deepak chopra ~ surgeon general”
    -
    Are you out of your mind? Deepak Chopra is a New Age nut case.

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  92. Ed -  November 22, 2011 - 8:14 am

    Its absurd that they can call Pizza a vegtable, with this logic McDonalds is HEALTHY and should fed to all kids right away!

    Gotta get your fries, thats potato! Gotta get your cheeseburger, thats got onion and tomato in the sauce! Gotta get your Big Mac, thats got lettuce!!

    How about we take it to its logical conclusion, chocolate bars have milk in them therefore contains calcium. Growing bones needs calcium therefore kids should really have several chocolate bars a day!!!!

    SO DAMN STUPID.

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  93. Karin -  November 22, 2011 - 8:13 am

    It is painfully obvious that people to not know much about food ingredients and nutrition. Tomato paste is a very concentrated form of to tomatoes that had been boiled down, which also increases the availability of a certain major nutrient that it contains. Much like the Weight watchers and other groups, each food is counted to have so much vegetable, starch, etc. It is very concentrated nutritionally. I have always considered pizza , depending on how it is made to have been given a bad rap. It contains most of the food groups, – grains (crust), vegetables (tomato sauce), dairy (cheese)., and often protein from meat or other sources. It can be made well or not, but it is not deep fried like french fries, so that in itself is a plus. Fried and especially fried foods are much worse.

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  94. Karl -  November 22, 2011 - 8:08 am

    Quoting Toni Pop on November 20, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    So if i put two tablespoons of tomato sauce on a congressman, does that make him a vegetable?

    Toni, you can’t turn a vegetable into a vegetable.

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  95. Al Sharpton -  November 22, 2011 - 7:50 am

    One final observation – we need about 3 more people to say that tomato is a fruit and not a vegetable.

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  96. Jaclyn -  November 22, 2011 - 7:23 am

    And people wonder why there is such rising rates of obesity in the United States…. yes, tomato sauce MAY be considered a vegetable, but the patty on a big mac is considered meat, does that mean it’s healthy? no

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  97. Al Sharpton -  November 22, 2011 - 7:17 am

    @vikhaari – I believe when you leave your house, 2 men in white jackets chase you through the street with a big butterfly net.

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  98. Al Sharpton -  November 22, 2011 - 7:08 am

    I have read all 160+ comments here. I believe the only person that was able to grasp the situation, and communicate it intelligently is Bob Johnson (posted about 6 positions above me). I believe we have found our new spokesperson to represent U.S. Congress.

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  99. Lauren -  November 22, 2011 - 7:02 am

    Pizza is not a vegetable. You could possibly get a serving of vegetables on a pizza – especially if it’s a pizza with lots of vegetables on it (ie: tomato, onion, peppers, mushrooms). But the dish itself is not a vegetable – just as we wouldn’t call vegetable soup a vegetable, or we wouldn’t call broccoli casserole a vegetable. Yo could consume a serving of vegetables from it, but you can’t call the dish a vegetable. If schools would serve pizza with whole-wheat crust, less cheese, and more vegetables, then I’d be okay with pizza being listed as a dish that would provide a serving of vegetables (we don’t have to just give them salad or a side of mixed veggies, let’s make it more exciting!) Add spices for more flavor if you’re worried kids won’t like a whole-wheat veggie less cheese pizza. There are some really exciting dishes that can be made with vegetables. And anyways, let’s stop thinking that kids won’t eat vegetables – I know plenty of kids that are more adventurous about eating (I was one), especially when you give them the option and don’t just pander to them.

    This whole situation has very little to do with what kids actually want, or what is best for them, but so much more to do with money and lobbying (frozen pizza industry, weirdly enough, has pull with government officials). Sadly, the wrong people are in government or have a say in the government, it seems.

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  100. Jesus -  November 22, 2011 - 6:37 am

    I personally think that the idea of a pizza pie being a vegetable is utterly inane. A tomato is a fruit and it will always be one. The government is stupid so let’s occupy Wall Street. :)

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  101. jjmillz -  November 22, 2011 - 6:31 am

    nina commet was true

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  102. jiaozi -  November 22, 2011 - 6:16 am

    @Colleen

    Partisan nonsense like you is precisely why America will never be great again. Wanna try that again without political pandering?

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  103. you not me -  November 22, 2011 - 6:12 am

    why does congress think about this stupid stuff they need to start working on the important things like MONEY!!! maybe.GET TO WORK CONGRESS!!!!!!

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  104. Reggie -  November 22, 2011 - 6:01 am

    Do we really need the government telling us? I think I can figure out anything I need to know without going to the government to solve my problems and tell me what to put on my table.

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  105. cookie -  November 22, 2011 - 5:57 am

    alll yall silly talken bout pizza

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  106. cookie -  November 22, 2011 - 5:55 am

    hayy tabby whats up

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  107. Pizza Disaster -  November 22, 2011 - 5:51 am

    First, pizza dough is not a vegetable.

    Second, pizza sauce came from tomatoes and tomato is not even a vegetable. It’s a fruit.

    Third, hotdogs, ham, pineapples and other meats in there are not evn veggies.

    It may have green bell pepper.

    So I think it’s better to say : Pizza has some vegetables in it. Some, because you can’t even see many vegetables in it.

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  108. Pizza Disaster -  November 22, 2011 - 5:47 am

    If you will ask a child if pizza is a vegetable, of course the child will say no.

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  109. Mike Hunt -  November 22, 2011 - 5:23 am

    Yeah buddy….

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  110. ron -  November 22, 2011 - 3:33 am

    The first post I’d read states that a fruit “has seeds” while a vegetable doesn’t. Therefore, the poster claims that a tomato is a fruit. This may or may not be true, though. This is what we say in the U.S. But in Korea (where I lived for a total of 7 years), students are taught that anything picked from a tree is a fruit, whereas a vegetable is something picked out of the ground, or off of a low vine.

    According to Dr. Oz on the Oprah Winfrey show, one tablespoon of tomato paste is, nutritionally, the equivalent of something like 60+ actual tomatoes. I can’t remember the exact number. I want to say “60″ and I want to say “260″. Something like that. But if the number is any higher than 1, two tablespoons of tomato paste would, nutritionally, be adequate as a serving of “vegetable” for a school lunch.

    It seem like people are working themselves into a tizzy for nothing. Calm down, people. If you continue to have a huge problem with it, your kids can brown-bag it.

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  111. randomdude -  November 22, 2011 - 3:28 am

    definition of vegetable: some thing that tastes crap and is “healthy”

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  112. Maddi -  November 22, 2011 - 2:29 am

    As a major pizza eater i’d like to agree but sorry… who’s dumb idea was that?? Seriously, was someone just like ‘Let’s make pizza a vegatable!’ some people have way too much time on their hands…

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  113. mark -  November 22, 2011 - 2:15 am

    i now love vegetables

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  114. Anonymous -  November 22, 2011 - 12:51 am

    What, really? *Gasp!* I can get my 5+ a day with this:

    Fatty Mince Pie with a bit of Potato on it. – What? It qualifies as a “vegetable.”

    Pizza with some Tomato Paste on it – Yeah, it’s healthy cause it has fruit on it.

    Deep Fried Fries with a tint of carrot juice. – Yes, it’s perfectly fine to eat this kids.

    Fried Chicken with some sweetened apple. – This is qualified as fruit.

    Donut with lectuce filling ( a bit. ) – This is soooooo a vegetable.

    Honestly? That sounds dumb. The Congress are either trying to do some sort of reverse phsycology mind trick (doubtful…) or are genuinely believing pizza to be a vegetable. People have brains for a reason, so use it. Just look at the responses, all saying how stupid the Congress are! And you still pass this law? Wow…your idiots. Quite plain and clear.

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  115. John -  November 22, 2011 - 12:17 am

    Seriously!!! How messed is our country? First of all, Tomatoes are fruits (contains seeds) [other people might have stated this]. Second, being that pizza I my opinion and others is not really healthy. Finally, the term ‘Vegetable’ I have no problem with. So what if they are tasteless?, I love them.

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  116. Aliza -  November 22, 2011 - 12:12 am

    Let’s get it straight. If pizza is a veggie, so the ingredients are also vegetables? Is flour a vegetable? I bet you won’t agree on that. So, better yet. Let us just order pizza and feast on it. Okay? You should agree on that. XD

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  117. Hayley -  November 21, 2011 - 10:09 pm

    wow interesting fact! thanks to whoever wrote it!

    Nice day we’re having everyone! ;)

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  118. Firewind -  November 21, 2011 - 9:47 pm

    This means nothing is too crazy to label a food or vegetable. If a lobbyist paid enough of them enough to do so, they’d vote sandwiches as vegetables. What’s the difference? Nothing important, it would be argued. And you’d hear, “Let the buyer beware,” even if it’s a kid in a lunch line. . .

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  119. Ruth -  November 21, 2011 - 9:46 pm

    But isn’t a tomato a fruit???

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  120. eggbert schmidt -  November 21, 2011 - 9:36 pm

    YAY I LOVE PIZZA BUT I HATE VEGGIES. THEY FINALLY MADE AN EDIBLE VEGGIE. THE MAN WHO INVENTED PIZZA IS A LEGEND. ITS GOOD TO KNOW THAT EATING AN UNHEALTHY FOOD IS GOOD FOR YOU

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  121. Firewind -  November 21, 2011 - 9:34 pm

    Food stamps will not buy pizza.

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  122. Phil -  November 21, 2011 - 9:27 pm

    I know what I’m saying the next time someone asks me, “What’s your favorite vegetable?”

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  123. Unknown -  November 21, 2011 - 9:04 pm

    Hold on everybody…. i have to go water my PIZZA PLANT!
    ya right…. a vegetable is a plant… when i can grow a pizza out of the ground… then it may be classified as a vegetable. but until then, lets keep pizza in the “junk food” category!

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  124. Unknown -  November 21, 2011 - 8:49 pm

    Pizza… a vegetable?
    its like saying a sub-sandwich is a meat, a taco is a grain, and a cheese burger is a dairy product!

    just because there is vegetables, meats, grains, fruits or dairy products in something, doesn’t mean it IS a vegetable, meat, grain, fruit or dairy product…. it just has that stuff in it!
    please make the U.S. a better place and take pizza off the food pyramid!

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  125. Kat -  November 21, 2011 - 8:29 pm

    Pizza is not a vegetable. Period.

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  126. M Diamond -  November 21, 2011 - 8:21 pm

    I love how instead of fixing our economy, congress is trying to define if pizza’s a vegetable or not.

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  127. Eth -  November 21, 2011 - 8:15 pm

    They have so many other things to worry about. They shouldn’t be having meetings on whether Pizza is a vegetable.

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  128. Kim Ward -  November 21, 2011 - 8:03 pm

    Isn’t a vegetable a vegetable? Not a paste… lol

    And like someone mentioned, a tomato is considered a fruit. So maybe they should suggest pizza is a fruit!

    School lunch programs are pretty sad, parents are much better off packing
    kids a lunch.

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  129. cockinater -  November 21, 2011 - 7:57 pm

    b-o-o-b

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  130. dfa -  November 21, 2011 - 7:56 pm

    pizza ;D

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  131. jack roger -  November 21, 2011 - 7:27 pm

    I THINK THIS SEXY

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  132. InGodWeTrust -  November 21, 2011 - 7:20 pm

    And btw.. lay off the Republicans. At least we actually believe in guns and getting our own food instead of buying it at a store like a loser..and most believe in God…….Of course a Democrat would blame the Republicans, saying we don’t eat vegetables and only fat foods Get off your lazy ….and go out and shoot some meat.. And you have the nerve TO SAY WE are lazy.. You speak out of ignorance and we have at least more morals than you do………

    God Bless You All.

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  133. Elizabeth -  November 21, 2011 - 7:17 pm

    I’m just loving how everyone is taking 15 minutes of their time to post a comment to this.. I can’t talk because I’ve checked this about 3 times today because it entertains me so much. I very well know I have no life lol….I made a previous post earlier, but I’ll say it again..

    TO ALL THE HIPPIE FREAKS THAT THINK PIZZA ISN’T A VEGETABLE:

    GO GROW YOUR ORGANIC HERBS AND EAT YOUR ORGANIC CEREAL AND SHOVE IT YOUR OWN MOUTH INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SHOVE YOUR STUPID OPINIONS DOWN THE PEOPLE WHO WANT PIZZA TO BE A VEGETABLE’S MOUTH IT’S TIME TO HEAR IT FROM OUR SIDE NOW ;D..!!!!!!!!!! >_<

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  134. Miranda -  November 21, 2011 - 7:07 pm

    That is ridiculous. It’s apparent that the American people are struggling to become and remain healthy. I wonder why? 2 tablespoons??? Really if you look at MyPlate, a more modern day food pyramid it shows that half of every plate of food you eat should be fruits and vegetables. How does 2 tablespoons even compare to that….? I don’t know either. Maybe Congress should try to save money by thinning their fat pockets instead of fattening up our youth with cheap food that has hardly any nutritional value… disgusting.

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  135. Anon -  November 21, 2011 - 7:05 pm

    I’d like to say that school lunches are crap because of the new implements in trying to make us not fat. That’s all I’m saying.

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  136. Rod Parkes -  November 21, 2011 - 7:01 pm

    To the person who asked: “So if i put two tablespoons of tomato sauce on a congressman, does that make him a vegetable?” – judging by this ruling, it certainly suggests he has the brain power of one.

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  137. Artemis Faye -  November 21, 2011 - 6:33 pm

    …I don’t know if there are any Hetalia fans here, but being one, all I can think of is England shouting: I thought I raised you better America! Aren’t you worried about your health?! Pizza a vegetable? Absolutely absurd!
    Spain: Ah! America! tomatoes are not vegetables! They are fruits! Please do not refer to them incorrectly!
    Italy: WAH~! America! Pizza is not a vegetable! My beautiful pizza, don’t listen to him!

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  138. Daniel -  November 21, 2011 - 6:32 pm

    if it has seeds it’s a fruit not a vegetable, so eggplants are vegetables too

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  139. Daniel -  November 21, 2011 - 6:31 pm

    TOMATOES ARE FRUITS NOT VEGETABLES, the U.S. congress should know that, but i suppose they have never been in contact with a vegetable, how should they know what it is.

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  140. Jonathan -  November 21, 2011 - 6:23 pm

    is taco pizza a taco then??

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  141. Pansy Parkinson -  November 21, 2011 - 6:09 pm

    Pizza–a vegetable? Are you kidding me, this is absurd. Pizza is counted as a vegetable just because it has tomato sauce. OK, so spaghetti could also be a vegetable because spaghetti sauce has tomatoes. Yeah, right. But if pizza will be a vegetable, then for you parents:
    MOM: Eat your vegetables!
    KID: Fine, just give me pizza. [It is the best vegetable ever!]

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  142. Amanda -  November 21, 2011 - 6:05 pm

    Does it really matter whether pizza is a vegetable or not? And besides, there are several different types of toppings on pizza such as mushrooms, broccoli, pepperoni, etc. It kinda depends on the toppings, too.

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  143. everett -  November 21, 2011 - 6:02 pm

    :)

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  144. everett -  November 21, 2011 - 6:01 pm

    Pizza is so not a vegetable congressmen. Geez!

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  145. Irving Zhao -  November 21, 2011 - 5:50 pm

    pizza is not a vegetable just because it has tomatoes on it. Tomatoes are technicly a fruit! Does anyone care for some jel-lo?

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  146. TETO -  November 21, 2011 - 5:48 pm

    Hey kids,”It’s all about money.” Congress is in big corporations pockets. Fast food will stay in business, people will continue to be FAT, as they say tomato sauce, catsup is a Vegetable. Sounds pretty legal to me. Do any of you remember when Congress decided it was okay to add water to packaged meat? They said it stayed fresh longer, tasted better and other lies. The consumer, that is you and me, are paying for water at the same rate we pay for the meat. I heard no complaints. People I talked to didn’t know it was suggested. It passed and is part of what we pay for now. Next time you buy a chicken or slice of ham etc. notice that little soppy piece of paper under the meat. It holds quite a bit of water and it is perfectly legal. Just remember, “It’s all about money!” Separating our money from us as they tell us they have our best interest in mind= NOT

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  147. POOPADOO -  November 21, 2011 - 5:38 pm

    I thought tomatoes were fruits. Stupid judges.

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  148. POOPADOO -  November 21, 2011 - 5:37 pm

    You surely can grow a pizza LOL!

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  149. JoeM -  November 21, 2011 - 5:28 pm

    PIZZA IS FAST FOOD!!! IT IS ALMOST COMPLETELY UNHEALTHY AND FAT-FILLED! Almost all vegetables are healthy… this is completely absurd and unthinkable.

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  150. Valerie -  November 21, 2011 - 5:28 pm

    *that

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  151. Valerie -  November 21, 2011 - 5:27 pm

    Ok, they’re saying the tomato sauce accounts for one SERVING of vegetableS, not tat pizza IS a vegetable. Learn the difference and stop spreading bullsh*t online.

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  152. Άττις -  November 21, 2011 - 5:05 pm

    This is absolutely absurd…

    It’s agitating, seeing men practicing powers that they are not granted… Congress has no powers given or even implied to them about “reaffirming” a food’s categorization.

    And what’s more, they justify their decision because a pizza has a certain amount of tomato sauce on it. “What is this, I don’t even…” or “I don’t want to live on this planet anymore” are good memes at this point.

    First of all, a tomato is NOT a vegetable. Differing the taste and texture of a food and categorizing them will lead to the same dramatic and horrible experience scientists tried to handle when they thought that there were only two types of living beings on the planet: plantae and animalia. A tomato is a fruit because it has seeds, a characteristic that differentiates between the two.

    Second, pizzas are composed of more than just tomato and bread crusts. It sometimes includes several meats, diary products, and seafoods, which none of them are counted as vegetables. In America, the consumption of pizza mainly includes all these (well, maybe not the seafood…). Whichever pizza joint you go to, they sell more meat or diary related pizza than anything else. Therefore, in average, pizza is consumed with meat as if they are symbiotic.

    Third, the justification is way too extreme. Let’s say Zeus decides to smear all of his mashed potato on my steak (rarely do I eat steak…). Is my steak now a vegetable? Another example: let’s say Dionysus decides to have a drunken orgy again, and spills all the wine on my clothing. Is my clothing now a drink, or is the wine now my clothes? Last example: Poseidon has decided to shove an apple in a roasted pig’s mouth. Is the pig now a fruit? Or is the apple now meat? No. This is self-evident that pizza, covered in tomato sauce, does not make it a vegetable. Neither does a pizza covered in a what more VEGETABLE like object make it any more of a vegetable (as I previously stated a tomato is NOT a vegetable). If the Congress believes that a pizza, covered in tomato sauce is a vegetable, than a tomato sauce covered in pizza is… whatever a pizza is.

    Lastly, as we continue off from whatever this pizza is, a pizza is a food of composition. Just like fried rice, it is a combination of different foods. I’ve cross towards Asia, and in Japan they have seafood pizza, which are fried. They call it a pizza, and it is served like a pizza. Yet, it contains vegetables, sorts of fishes and octopus, and different variety of sauces. It has no tomato related objects and no meat. In Korea, a pizza consists only vegetables.

    All in all, United States as not evolved into a wonderful country, where our government is out to protect and serve the citizens and their rights, but the US has devolved into a pitiful nation, where the Congress is too lazy to pass bills that could help our country, but it negotiates on rather meaningless things like “what a pizza can be categorized on.”
    This negotiation is not just meaningless, their holding is incorrect, as I have proven their justification and thoughts. In fact, there is no need for facts. The citizens of the US have already stated that this holding is just absurd. Congress is responsible to represent the ideas and views of the people, may be it wrong or right. Throughout US history, it shows that our government was created so that the views of the citizens would be represented. The Declaration of Independence, the Gettysburg Address, and even in the Emancipation of Proclamation (study it in depth. Has relations with the Declaration of Independence) has ideals of a TRUE and PURE Republican government (not to be confused with Republican party. Their views are different [as a Republican government is a government where the PEOPLE are in control of the government, the one your fore-founding fathers wanted]).

    If anyone should negotiate if pizza is a vegetable, it should be Korea.

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  153. Greenie -  November 21, 2011 - 4:49 pm

    This reminded me of a quote from a cute animated film (this is just a comment, by the way, not a presentation of evidence or an argument ;)

    “This is called farming! You kids are gonna grow all kinds of plants! Vegetable plants, pizza plants! Oh, it’s good to be home!”
    - The Captain from WALL.E, 2008

    See, “vegetable plants” and “pizza plants” are in different categories.
    I love that quotation ;)

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  154. CELLO -  November 21, 2011 - 4:48 pm

    THIS JUST SHOWS HOW DOWNHILL CONGRESS IS GOING

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  155. fgshjdcx -  November 21, 2011 - 4:47 pm

    LOL.
    1st off…….pizza is delicous
    1nd ….. vegetables aren’t
    therefore……..pizza isn’t a vegetabke(; gawsh pple suree r stupid

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  156. Sam-I-am -  November 21, 2011 - 4:27 pm

    C’mon people, are we REALLY that stubid?!
    Seriously pizza NO veggie!
    What is it? I dont know.
    But i know its NO vedg
    Everyone knows Tomatos are a fruit!
    Whats up with this congress!?! Your suppose to be raising taxs, Killing orphanes, and making laws that DONT make sense, but here you are, making reports about PIZZA.
    I tried to watch the news a while ago and ALL of this crap was filling up the tv!
    What if something IMPORTANT happened?
    Like a tornado, or world peace, OR a macys blow-out sale.
    But NOOOO, theres got to be all this huge misleading idoitic guesses that our reliable goverment is possibly considering.
    What an amazing country WE have here -_-.

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  157. NotJustinBieber -  November 21, 2011 - 4:25 pm

    Hahaha, i cant read…

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  158. KT -  November 21, 2011 - 4:11 pm

    ima kid at school :P

    HEEHEE

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  159. Alex -  November 21, 2011 - 4:10 pm

    PIZZA IS NOT A VEGETABLE! The only reason I can see why congress would classify pizza as a vegetable is so they can say it is healthy for you ;when it isn’t, then America becomes more fat and then they can get more money; and credit, out of “fitness” movements. either that OR they are THAT IGNORANT.

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  160. Tyler -  November 21, 2011 - 4:07 pm

    Honestly, why should food in schools be regulated anyways? That should be left up to the state. The federal government wants to step in and “fix” this nations problem with obesity, but what they’re forgetting is that they only provide 2% of the average school districts funding. States cover the other 98%, so it should ultimately be up to them what kids are eating. Also, while you can force kids to eat healthy for lunch (most of them just don’t eat from schools anyway since the food has become so disgusting) , what about dinner? Kids are going to go home and eat whatever the hell they want, and probably more of it since it’s commonly human to do the opposite of what you’re directed to do. We need to educate our kids about proper food choices instead of forcing healthy food down their throats.

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  161. DreamerGrl123 -  November 21, 2011 - 3:58 pm

    lol, another excuse for me to eat pizza!!!

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  162. RAWR -  November 21, 2011 - 3:53 pm

    lets look at the ingredients of a pepperoni pizza: cheese, meat, flour, tomato sauce.i don’t see anything that’s a vegetable so…. since it has nothing to do with vegetables it is in no way shape or form a vegetable. simple and even if you add vegetables as toppings it shouldn’t make it a vegetable because it would pretty much be the same thing as: i added a lemon to my mixed fruit drink therefore the drink is now lemon juice. (bad example i know. its the only thing i came up with)

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  163. Linda -  November 21, 2011 - 3:40 pm

    Pizza does not count as a vegetable, although it can count as a complete main course. However, in order to achieve this, the pizza must contain a balance of non processed vegetables, meats, cheeses, and preferably a homemade sauce…simple enough: plain, unsalted tomato sauce…add your own seasoning to taste (basil, garlic, oregano, anise if desired, and black pepper, salt sugar) simmer 20 min. In order to reach the goal of decreasing childhood obesity, we must start with national education, because as a few others have mentioned, good eating habits begin at home. Reinforcement in the educational system and on public broadcasting, as well as reforms in target advertisement and food processing regulations are required. It is a daunting task, but the greatest success will be achieved with a multi platform approach, all the while pushing physical participation….Canada had Participaction commercials for around 10 years, which helped to increase the public’s awareness of the importance of living an active and healthy lifestyle. These commercials offered fun activity suggestions for families, food alternative suggestions to increase fibre, vitamin, and mineral intake as well as to reduce fat, sodium, and empty carbohydrate consumption. This spawned a new food movement and new business increase. Going forward, more initiatives were brought in to protect the public interest, and continue to increase public awareness. This is seen as a means of prevention and monetary savings on the medical and disabilities systems. The newest reform has been to food processing where sodium has been mandated reduced.
    Not enough can be said for replacing empty carbohydrates and calories for whole, unprocessed foods…eating less while getting more nutrition and feeling satiated longer is a novel idea for many, but it is imperative to our health. The people who live longest on this earth are those who eat a balanced, whole diet and do not stuff themselves. Note the word balanced…that means you can still enjoy those not so good for you things, now and then, in balance and moderation.

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  164. andres -  November 21, 2011 - 3:35 pm

    this is why congress has an approval rating of like 10% lmfao

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  165. sonia -  November 21, 2011 - 3:35 pm

    Keep in mind that this vegetable called pizza has lots of white flour, a detrimental carbohydrate.

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  166. victor -  November 21, 2011 - 3:14 pm

    I’m glad that pizza is a vegetable. Now I could tell that to my parents.

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  167. Whipps -  November 21, 2011 - 3:07 pm

    “So if i put two tablespoons of tomato sauce on a congressman, does that make him a vegetable?” …Thank you, Toni Pop!

    If you put walnuts in brownies, does that make them nuts? Nope. Though they have a small amount of nutritional benefit in them because of the walnuts, they are still brownies, an unhealthy (though delicious treat). Same deal with pizza: though it has tomato sauce, that does not make it a vegetable or even a true serving of vegetables. Tomato sauce is a vegetable PRODUCT. That’s like calling gravy on your mashed potatoes a serving of meat.

    Think about it, people.

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  168. Carbonated Chocolate Cake -  November 21, 2011 - 2:52 pm

    Dear assassin tim,
    LOL! I belive that too! I proved that piiza was not a vegie in two of my earlier comments! Thanks for supporting my opinion! :D

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  169. Ashley -  November 21, 2011 - 2:48 pm

    YAY!!!!!! i can eat my full servings of vegetables in one day!!!!!! :)

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  170. claudia -  November 21, 2011 - 2:43 pm

    I would eat a pizza every day if it was a vegetable yummy!

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  171. Alex -  November 21, 2011 - 1:57 pm

    @Audrey don’t they put vegetables in chicken pot pies?….yes

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  172. Ramblin -  November 21, 2011 - 1:57 pm

    Read the first paragraph. Whoever wrote this put their own spin on the Pizza to incite this riot . It says Congress said the two Tablespoons of paste count as a vegetable portion in school lunches. Not that Pizza IS a vegetable. Sheesh!

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  173. Amanda -  November 21, 2011 - 1:56 pm

    Erika, I do agree with you, but it is quite ridiculous how poor your spelling is, considering you’re a high school student and you are being corrected by a middle school student.

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  174. Rob di Felche -  November 21, 2011 - 1:54 pm

    Pizza…A “vegetable” ?
    Pizza, If made right, is extremely healthy – Perhaps the dough you use is unhealthy, all the talk about not eating bread and not eating anything with processed flour etc etc.

    I grow my own Tomatos, My own Basil (my own herbs as a matter of fact) i buy my black olives and my mozzarella. mozzarella is full of fat (15g out of 27g is sat fat *avg*) and make my own dough.

    Bake that pizza in the oven, nothing wrong with that perfectly good for you.

    5 Fruit/Veg a day is a guideline we should eat a lot more. However health persons advised that setting the guideline to its actual amount (at leat 8 portions of Fruit/veg a day) would be setting the bar too high and people would be more inclined to stick with 5 a day and probably eat more as a result..

    pizza is a vegetable…no…hmm, have plenty of them on a pizza – doesnt necessarily make it a vegetable – just makes it a very nice addition to accompany the already delicious veggies you can put on a pizza.

    Peppers.
    Onions
    Olives (another fruit – cause of the pip/seed)
    artichoke
    Leek
    Mushrooms

    common sense never prevails. people will read that the government/congress of the U.S. See pizza as a vegetable and eat a lot of pizza or pizza like snacks thinking its healthy thinking nothing of the Sat Fat in their gullet. Well – no, no processed food eaten in excess is good for you.

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  175. Maddy M. -  November 21, 2011 - 1:43 pm

    Now I feel REALLY good about these guys helping run the country….

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  176. uh..duh -  November 21, 2011 - 1:33 pm

    But tomatoes are fruits…

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  177. Somebody -  November 21, 2011 - 1:06 pm

    Meanwhile, nobody has jobs. Excellent, Congress.

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  178. N -  November 21, 2011 - 1:03 pm

    Im sorry but this is so stupid…

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  179. Keegan -  November 21, 2011 - 12:47 pm

    This is ridiculous! Pizza is not a vegetable! Who says vegetables are gross, anyways? I am 13 and I love all my vegetables. (Well, except brussel sprouts, but that can’t be helped.)
    To Colleen: Why did you have to make this a partisan debate? That’s just like Democrats, turning everything against the Republicans even if the issue isn’t even about politics!

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  180. v-raze -  November 21, 2011 - 12:28 pm

    *vegetableS

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  181. v-raze -  November 21, 2011 - 12:27 pm

    Cool! Never thought so much about Vegetable! I’m getting all nostalgic for those childhood arguments about the fruit/veggie classification of tomatoes…

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  182. natnat -  November 21, 2011 - 12:26 pm

    Pizza is not a vegetable it is just an excuse to make food seem healthier when it is just making you FAT.

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  183. clayde -  November 21, 2011 - 12:26 pm

    Tomatoes are fruits.it has no veggies in it whatsoever!!!

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  184. Jim -  November 21, 2011 - 12:24 pm

    This is why decisions like this should be up to the local communities. If parents object to feeding school kids pizza, they can mandate their own standards. No one will ever be elected to (or kicked out of) Congress for their vote on pizza, so nothing you can do at the national level can influence them (unless you donate copious amounts of money). Local rules can be more easily changed and controlled by the affected communities.

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  185. Brian -  November 21, 2011 - 12:16 pm

    When I was younger I had, and still have, a wicked sweet tooth; however, I love vegetables now, too. Pizza is NOT A VEGETABLE, politicians are complete morons and we need intelligent people back up there. You never had to worry about this crap in the days of James Monroe.

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  186. ALICE -  November 21, 2011 - 12:13 pm

    TOMATOES ARE NOT VEGETABLES, THEY ARE FRUITS. Also, pizza is bad for you, think of all the fat in that cheese and the other crap that goes into the toppings.

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  187. AC -  November 21, 2011 - 12:09 pm

    I think that its contents should be counted as a vegetable, and because tofu is a protein does that mean that it was an animal

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  188. Jon -  November 21, 2011 - 12:05 pm

    I sent a letter to my pen pal about this she says it is wow i did not know. I am in 5th grade

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  189. Michael -  November 21, 2011 - 12:00 pm

    How can you begin to think like this? Idiocy! Vegetables are single igredients. They are grown idividually from the earth. You can’t classify pizza as a vegetable as it is a combination of various “altered” ingredients. You want health? Eat an apple. Eat a SALAD. Don’t eat pizza. And don’t make excuses just because pizza contains an altered vegetable. It’s not good for you. We learned this is grade school with all the nutrition handouts. If you ate pizza everyday for your daily nutrition servings, you would be obese. I dont think it takes a 12-inch brick wall for you to see that.

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  190. Jessica -  November 21, 2011 - 11:54 am

    PS – I really like the comments

    “So if i put two tablespoons of tomato sauce on a congressman, does that make him a vegetable?”

    and

    “Considering that the “pizza” served in schools barely passes as pizza, how in the world can it pass as a vegetable?”

    All too true, you guys!

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  191. YannTheBostonien -  November 21, 2011 - 11:54 am

    The problem has never been whether or not the pizza was a vegetable. Tomato is a healthy food and should be consumed as such by the kids. The problem IS the pizza itself that is served. The peperonni pizza for example so favored by many has half the daily value of Satured fat and Sodium… not really healthy. The amount of cheese and the quality of the food itself makes the pizza REALLY unhealthy. The pizza can even count for 2 or 3 vegetables depending of what you put in it (mushrooms, pepper, tomato slices, eggplant, …)

    “They are typically rich in nutrients and low in fat and protein” Yes! It is correct when eating raw or just lightly seasoned tomatoes. Think about this: what is it that’s between the tomato plant and the tomato sauce in the pizza? There are so many processes in between that it looses most of its nutrients as a raw tomato and plus the temperature to bake the pizza takes care of the nutrient that could be left in the sauce. (over 118F, a cooked vegetable looses its nutrients).

    This is a big mascarade and people are not fooled and are right to react!
    My kid will never eat this!

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  192. Jessica -  November 21, 2011 - 11:52 am

    I hope that, should this law get passed, Amecans are intelligent enough to understand our government has gone insane. They are only attempting this for the simple fact that if people start serving healthier foods, the processed food industry’s economic standing with dramatically decline. It’s unfortunate that US citizens, especially school students, will suffer from corporate greed. Isn’t bad enough that they control 99% of the world’s money? Do they seriously feel the need to consume the last 1%? What’s the point? If they succeed in swallowing the last of the finances floating around, we will end up finding new ways of getting items and services we need – or revert to the old ways of bartering and trade. It’s a shame we’ve voted these people into such high seats of authority.

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  193. Angry Pizza Farmer -  November 21, 2011 - 11:49 am

    What’s all this nonsense about pizza not being a vegetable…it is obviously a fruit. Jeez, congress get your facts straight. Plus, think about ALL those food pyramids that have to be modified in order to incorporate pizza into the category. Didn’t think of that did you…

    If they did want to justify pizza as a vegetable, couldn’t they just encourage schools to order veggie/vegan-pizzas (not that this would immediately categorize it under vegetable or impact the escalating percentage of obesity in America)? I really don’t understant where this article gets that “vegetables have gotten a bad rap”. I nearly fainted when I read that vegetables were synonymous with “disgusting and flavorless”. As an aspiring chef, I sincerely hope that the term “vegetable” becomes clarified.

    Maybe congress is the problem here?

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  194. N8 -  November 21, 2011 - 11:48 am

    If that keeps PIZZA!!!!!!!!!!!! in the lunch menu, you could call it a piece of plastic and I couldn’t care less. Even if it isn’t really true, I love my pizza and I won’t let them take it away. The french bread and veggie pizza my school serves in a line, (1st Friday, Pizza, 2nd Friday, french bread, third Friday, Veggie Pizza) STINKS! Not only that, but they replaced my smiley potatoes with carrot fries that taste like somebody took a carrot, had a dog shew it up in it’s bone, and dried it. I WANT MY SMILEY POTATOES!

    Well, at least they brought the chocolate milk back, even if they did only give us the small, HEALTHY, cartons. I like the game on the side where I can connect them to make new creatures using real creatures’ heads and other real creatures’ bodies.

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  195. Von -  November 21, 2011 - 11:46 am

    Who thinks vegetables are flavorless and disgusting? Was there a survey that I’m not aware of where people were asked to choose from the following, that vegetables are:
    1. Delicious, life-giving and full of nutrients
    2. Pretty good
    3. Not delicious
    4. Disgusting, nauseating, abhorrent
    And most people chose number four? Really?? Geez…

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  196. Al Sharpton -  November 21, 2011 - 11:45 am

    I agree with all of you. After all, I am an eggplant. Now, if pizza is a veggie (but really a fruit), and the guy that sells it to me is gay, the pizzeria is really a fruit stand, right?

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  197. draven -  November 21, 2011 - 11:44 am

    big bad chevy 0

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  198. Jay -  November 21, 2011 - 11:43 am

    Toni Pop? You got it right! All of congress must be red for the amount of vegetables there are in it! I love it!

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  199. draven -  November 21, 2011 - 11:41 am

    8) :* :( :)

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  200. VEGETABLE | BLOGCHI@mayopia.com -  November 21, 2011 - 11:38 am

    [...] ‘Vegetable’, animal or mineral: — Pizza is so much more than that — ‘Imagine’ — ‘Ketchup’ in Hot Water, we call Tomato Soup — Scrape the topping off the Pizza — The Grain that’s in the group, — put the shell on top your head, — to be some Cat in the Hat.  — Cool it first, he said. — Forget to eat your vegetables. — End up a Red Glove on the Stoop. — We try to be amusing — But language is so hard. — From judgment we’re recusing: — We can’t handle all the Lard. Tanks. –>>L.T.Rhyme This entry was posted in DEMOCRAZY, DICTCOMHOTWORD, L.T.Rhyme and tagged De Nile, Democracy, LT, LTRhyme, the HOT WORD by admin. Bookmark the permalink. [...]

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  201. Anonymous -  November 21, 2011 - 11:37 am

    1) Pizza sauce has such little tomato sauce in it, that this is stupid! 1 large pizza contains about 8 ounces of tomato sauce = 1cup of tomato sauce =(approx) 2 tomatoes and so each slice (12 slices in a large pizza) should have 0.167 of a single tomato. THE REST IS ALL SUGAR AND SALT AND SOME SPICES (perhaps some meat , cheese and vegetables if you ordered them). Therefore, 83.3% of any slice is not tomato related and since a pizza is made up of the slices, therefore 83.3% of a pizza is not tomato related.

    2) You can’t designate food groups! You can’t just say “chocolate contains coca beans and is therefore a bean”! That’s stupid! Chocolate is not a bean, and pizza is not a vegetable. They are both modified. All food must come from some other food…be it on the molecular level (glucose, fructose, proteins, amino acids etc) or on the macroscopic level (salan=mixtures of spices+meat+other stuff that I don’t know).

    And number 3…

    3) TOMATOS ARE A FRUIT! THEY ARE NOT VEGETABLES!!! How can they call pizza a vegetable for having tomatos on them, if tomatos themselves are fruits?! It doesn’t make any sense!

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  202. Zora -  November 21, 2011 - 11:26 am

    what?! this…..is……..RIDICULOUS! Just because you slap tomatos (which is a FRUIT btw) on it doesn’t mean this is a dang veggitable!

    I love pizza, but LET IT BE WHAT IT IS

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  203. Lou -  November 21, 2011 - 11:09 am

    Does congress really disrespect the American people that much that they would legislate something like that? Anyone with brains knows pizza is not a vegetable. Yes, it has a little bit of tomatoe paste on it, and it MAY have green peppers and or onions or whatever, but there is not enough on even two slices to constitute a half of a cup of a serving, unless, like our congresspeople, you put a lot of hot air under it. Even then if a government-run food program manages to get an actual serving of vegetables on one or two slices of pizza, the costs will be out of reach for many schools or adult care centers to afford it in their budgets. These facilities’ budgets are being cut left and right, and that so-called “vegetable” is nothing more than another card in the house of lies our government is trying to patch together. Those money lobbyists need to get out of our congress!!

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  204. Mason -  November 21, 2011 - 11:00 am

    I absolutely love the idea of pizza being a vegitable. Although i do agree with the idea of congress being extremely idiotic for passing this. i mean how many years has pizza been around? 20? and also the fact that it has more dairy and grain than vegitable means that congress sucks. why did we vote for them?

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  205. mark -  November 21, 2011 - 10:57 am

    im gona use that excuse!

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  206. Karin -  November 21, 2011 - 10:55 am

    You said it yourself… Vegetables ”are typically rich in nutrients and low in fat and protein.’ THIS IS NOT PIZZA! Seriously? Are we really coming to these sorts of questions? Is pizza a vegetable? We will do anything to make us feel healthier for the crap we put in our mouths and all we are doing is fooling and killing ourselves. My goodness, get a brain!

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  207. crayZ -  November 21, 2011 - 10:54 am

    I love that pizza is a veggi, and I can now rationalize my eating it, but COME ON! if anything pizza is a grain. It IS mostly bread.

    No matter what it is called I will always love it. PIZZA FOREVER! :D

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  208. Todd -  November 21, 2011 - 10:50 am

    How is Pizza a vegetable when tomato is a fruit, cheese is a dairy, and meat toppings…are, well, meat?? hahaha!

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  209. A pissed Senior -  November 21, 2011 - 10:49 am

    Why is everyone focusing on the sauce? There is more to pizza than the tomato sauce. If congress wants to label the SAUCE as a vegetable, then I am fine with that. But they need to leave the rest of the pizza alone. When I am eating a piece of pepperoni pizza, I think the only vegetable is the sauce, because the cheese IS NOT a vegetable, the crust IS NOT a vegetable, and the pepperoni IS NOT a vegetable.

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  210. bryce -  November 21, 2011 - 10:43 am

    Erika do you not realize that all plants both vegtables and fruits have seeds wow you have no thought into the subject.

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  211. nina -  November 21, 2011 - 10:39 am

    no wonder our kids eat for crap in school lunch programs……o jeez….

    here’s something novel…..next election…..write in…..if we REALLY want to change the consciousness let’s DO it….

    marianne williamson ~ president
    wayne dyer ~ VP
    deepak chopra ~ surgeon general
    you fill in the others…..

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  212. Colleen -  November 21, 2011 - 10:37 am

    The Repubs will not accept the new guidelines the Obama adminstration is trying to instill – in that more fresh foods, less fast food in schools – is at least a step towards healthier lunches and kids. BUT NO – the Repubs have to protect their corporate brethren. To heck with our health. It is all about the money. Another way the Repubs do what is good for their pocket book – not the citizens of this country.

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  213. Danielle -  November 21, 2011 - 10:22 am

    PIZZA is not vegetable and neither is a TOMATO!!!!!! Its a fruit because it has seeds and I would know becaus ei am in AP Bio!!!! TOMATO IS A FRUITO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!pass it on

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  214. Haden -  November 21, 2011 - 10:12 am

    I think this is stupid how how can an unhealthy thing like pizza be called a veggie this is stupid and crazy whos running this plan? they need help.

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  215. MTD -  November 21, 2011 - 10:02 am

    Pizza is not a vegetable. It may have vegetables on it but, it is not a vegetable. Is this really part of the US Congress job. Shouldn’t they deal with more important issues than pizza.

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  216. bob johnson -  November 21, 2011 - 9:53 am

    i think that pizza being a veggy is hored . mostly beacuse it only has a veggy in it dose not mean that it should be a veggy , so dose that mean that checan pot pies should be a veggy !!!!

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  217. Sue -  November 21, 2011 - 9:47 am

    Quote from Erica
    “For starters a tomatoe is a fruit; it has seeds (the main distinguisher between fruits and vegetables).”

    I don’t think the distinguishing characteristic between “fruit” and “vegetable” is “seeds”. Take zuchinni, squash, corn, peas, green beans, cucumber. All have seeds, but a cucumber is not a culinary fruit. There is a difference between the culinary, scientific and even legal definition.

    Legally, the Supreme Court ruled a tomato is a vegetable – for taxation purposes, of course.

    But, I think the real problem here is amount. 2 tablespoons of tomato sauce does not meet the definition of a serving by culinary standards or even by the USDA food pyramid. However, I’m sure the crust would meet the standard for one serving of bread/cereal. And, the cheese probably meets the standard for one serving of dairy.

    If you had 1/2 cup tomato sauce on one slice of pizza – then I would say yet, call it a serving a veggies. That would be a lot of sauce, though.

    This whole concept is ludicrous.

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  218. Carlitos -  November 21, 2011 - 9:42 am

    Tomato Paste/Pizza = Vegetable

    Corporations = People

    In God We Trust = National Motto (replacing ‘E Pluribus Unum’)

    Left = Right

    Right = Wrong (Okay, this one’s not such a stretch! ;p)

    …Congress has failed. Also, it’s the eve of them also failing to reach deficit/debt deals. This will likely reduce our credit rating with other rating institutions.

    …Congress is paralyzed in partisan stalemate. I think it’s time to impose term limits on them as well as justices of high courts.

    …Party politics has failed our country. Time to strike down political parties, the electoral college, and put everything to popular votes. Start the referendums! SOS!

    The Tea Party is right- the government is broken and corrupt. The Occupy Movement is right- it is money’s fault. Put them together = a revolution for the people. Let’s take it back!

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  219. Yo-Yo Dragon -  November 21, 2011 - 9:34 am

    Pizza a vegetable really?!!!!!!!!! You would think the government could come up with something better!

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  220. Lily -  November 21, 2011 - 9:18 am

    Overweight students is not just a cause from school food. We have no control what students eat, drink, or the amount of exercise that the students get at home. I’ve seen students after school consume high amounts of chips, soda, and other junk because they DO NOT wat in school since they don’t like the way that the food taste. Are we going to restrict parents and companies to only serve healthy foods? Sometimes parents work day and night to provide for their family and don’t even cook they might just buy fast food since its easier for them to get than cook after a ling day.

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  221. emoxziita'' love -  November 21, 2011 - 9:13 am

    hey the pixza is not vegetable because my mom is working at hospital and people fat in because eating pizza and foof not good

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  222. Raymond -  November 21, 2011 - 9:10 am

    The problem is that pizza means something different to people who call it a vegetable: In France, and other European countries, a pizza is a tomato-and-onion pie, while in America it’s thinner on the tomato and onions, spicier (spices are vegetables), and the bottom is sprinkled with ground corn (that’s vegetable), But you can top with green peppers if you know your vegetables.

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  223. josh -  November 21, 2011 - 9:03 am

    Erika peppers are vegtibles and they have seeds now tell us that one

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  224. mikey -  November 21, 2011 - 9:02 am

    yaaaaaaaay now i can eat pizza and be like don worry it’s a vegetable ;)

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  225. marshal -  November 21, 2011 - 9:02 am

    now when I eat a whole box of dominos pizza, i wont feel as fat ;)

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  226. marcus B -  November 21, 2011 - 9:01 am

    a pizza is not a vegetable or a fruit or meat, it’s a cheeze, fat, sause dow. we have a hot cheezy situation

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  227. :) -  November 21, 2011 - 9:00 am

    I have to eat vegetables (broccoli, cauliflower, peas, brussel sprouts, etc.) every day for lunch and dinner, and I for one do not think that pizza is anywhere close to being a vegetable…even if you make it homemade. The sauce amounts for the smallest fraction of the pizza (unless you have toppings) and most people I know don’t eat pizza with vegetable toppings. Not to mention that the sauce is loaded with sugar and who knows what else (preservatives, etc. depending on where you buy it from). Congress is crazy if they think that pizza is a vegetable, or contains a sufficient amount of vegetables to be considered healthy. Our obesity problem in America is enough of a problem…they don’t need to confuse people more by saying that fast foods like pizza and french fries are vegetables.
    And by the way…peas, potatoes, and corn are starches, not vegetables. Green vegetables are the best for you-they have the most vitamins and nutrients.

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  228. Danny -  November 21, 2011 - 8:55 am

    So now that pizza is a vegetable what will schools serve as a main dish to go along with it. Imagine a school lunch menu today;
    Main dish – Cheese Burger
    Vegetable – Pepperoni Pizza
    Grains – Chips
    Drink – your choice of Pop or Milk

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  229. Anonymous -  November 21, 2011 - 8:51 am

    For once and for all: TOMATOES ARE A FRUIT.

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  230. Elizabeth -  November 21, 2011 - 8:50 am

    Okay…wow..I was reading all the comments and I have to say..you people that say it’s ”fattening” to eat pizza and EAT THE VEGETABLES and blah blah blah, I’d like to ask the question, ARE YOU CRAZY? Who doesn’t want to eat pizza everyday? Especially kids. Take your hippie comments and go grow some organic herbs and shove them in your own mouth.

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  231. jhh -  November 21, 2011 - 8:48 am

    Doesn’t congress have better things to spend our tax money on rather than paying themselves to decide whether or not a pizza is a vegetable?

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  232. Alice -  November 21, 2011 - 8:26 am

    Some pizzas aren’t even healthy!

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  233. Alice -  November 21, 2011 - 8:25 am

    How in the world does pizza end up as a veggie?

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  234. Carbonated Chocolate Cake -  November 21, 2011 - 8:20 am

    And plus people don’t plant pizza!

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  235. Jose -  November 21, 2011 - 8:19 am

    OMG! Kids get to eat pizza? What a screwed up country! Shame on the president! Shame on congress! Really, guys? Get over it and some using excuse like this to talk crap about the president and vent your personal prejudices. People are obese, because they over eat and lack proper diets. I eat pizza every day (college life) and I’m skinny as heck! I workout and make sure I balance my diet and it all works out. Get the sticks out of your butts.

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  236. English -  November 21, 2011 - 8:15 am

    Ridiculous. I’m from England, and we would not consider pizza a vegetable. The Congress is absurd!

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  237. sfd -  November 21, 2011 - 8:10 am

    This is ridicules. Europe would never consider pizza a vegetable. I happen to care for Europe.

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  238. Is Pizza a Vegetable? « Summer -  November 21, 2011 - 8:04 am

    [...] this article really interesting. Link The U.S. Department of Agriculture—which regulates the school lunches served to millions of [...]

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  239. David -  November 21, 2011 - 8:02 am

    Hey all,

    I don’t think the congress is saying pizza is a veggie. Ask any lunch lady and she will tell you that what is important is “Is it a SERVING?” They are require to provide a certain number of SERVINGS of various nutritional foods, and congress says that there is enough tomato on a piece of pizza to be a “serving”. Whatever…

    BTW – This is not the first time the Gov. has taken up the weighty topic of tomato classification. From WIKIpedia…

    “Fruit or vegetable?
    Botanically, a tomato is a fruit: the ovary, together with its seeds, of a flowering plant. However, the tomato has a much lower sugar content than other fruits, and is therefore not as sweet. Typically served as part of a salad or main course of a meal, rather than at dessert, it is considered a vegetable for most culinary purposes. One exception is that tomatoes are treated as a fruit in home canning practices: they are acidic enough to be processed in a water bath rather than a pressure cooker as “vegetables” require. Tomatoes are not the only foodstuff with this ambiguity: eggplants, cucumbers, and squashes of all kinds (such as zucchini and pumpkins) are all botanically fruits, yet cooked as vegetables.

    This argument has had legal implications in the United States. In 1887, U.S. tariff laws that imposed a duty on vegetables, but not on fruits, caused the tomato’s status to become a matter of legal importance. The U.S. Supreme Court settled the controversy on May 10, 1893, by declaring that the tomato is a vegetable, based on the popular definition that classifies vegetables by use, that they are generally served with dinner and not dessert (Nix v. Hedden (149 U.S. 304)).[51] The holding of the case applies only to the interpretation of the Tariff Act of March 3, 1883, and the court did not purport to reclassify the tomato for botanical or other purposes.”

    So in 1883 the Supreme Court said they were a Vegetable so they could tax the imports! I suspect there are similar motives today…someone’s benefitting, if only the (afore-mentioned) lunch ladies who would have to replace a “staple” if pizza wasn’t a SERVING of anything!

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  240. Alyssa & Austin -  November 21, 2011 - 7:59 am

    WE LOVE PIZZA! WE ARE SO HAPPY IT IS NOW A VEGGIE :) WE EAT VEGGIES ALL THE TIME NOW. YUMMY YUMMY YUMMY I GOT LOVE IN MY TUMMY :)

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  241. SHATANIQUE CAMILLE -  November 21, 2011 - 7:55 am

    THIS IS A WASTE OF MY EYES. I CAN’T BELIEVE WE ARE ALL BELEVING THIS. DOES A VEGETABLE HAVE A WHOLE LOTTA GREASE ON IT?

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  242. Anymous -  November 21, 2011 - 7:48 am

    ok so there is NO cheese, NO dough, and, NO toppings on pizza.
    And why does the government care anyway, isn’t there a war going on?

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  243. Ken -  November 21, 2011 - 7:44 am

    I don’t accept pizza as a vegetable. However, it is a nutrient dense food. There are only 140 calories per slice in a medium cheese pizza. Cheese is an excellent source for protein and fat necessary for the diet. The dough provide your grains and the tomato sauce a vegetable serving. Eating pizza is not the problem. It’s highly nutritious. Over eating pizza is the problem.

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  244. Donovan -  November 21, 2011 - 7:42 am

    With this logic of a pizza being a vegetable due to the tomato paste on it, then should it not be called a dairy product? Yes a dairy product, not all pizzas have tomato paste on it but all pizza has cheese on it. Or how bout it being considered under the Bread, cereal, rice, and pasta catagory of the food group since the main ingredient is bread. Look if you want kids to be able to enjoy pizza and save the school some money by continuing to serve it then just call it a cheat item or something, which is usually allowed under most dietary plans. Educate children early that they should eat healthy most of the time and as a reward to self they can indulge with a treat food. Hopefully teaching children responsibilty and how important a nutrient balance is.

    Pizza a vegetable…lol!

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  245. Chovie -  November 21, 2011 - 7:38 am

    This is absolutely ridiculous!!! Pizza is pizza! If you want want to make piazza a vegetable than make it mandatory to have green peppers or something veggie on your pizza. Pizza used to be an every once in a while thing. Now make sure you eat all of your pizza with your pork chop honey! You need your vegetables to be big and strong… Wait… why the hell is my child so fat?!

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  246. Rox -  November 21, 2011 - 7:29 am

    A vegetable?! Are you kidding?! Does it grow from the ground? Not really! How is it a vegetable, if there isn’t any as the main ingredient? Wow people, wow.

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  247. Dominic -  November 21, 2011 - 7:28 am

    FAIL. Pizza is not a vegetable, c’mon. Regardlgess of the “agenda” of this, its stupid to even think it. Tomato is techically a fruit first of all, but assuming its a vegetable, its on the pizza, its not the pizza itself.

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  248. ed -  November 21, 2011 - 7:28 am

    The members of congress are vegetables.

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  249. Dan -  November 21, 2011 - 7:26 am

    Parents who want to decide what is best for their children’s diet are welcome to send their children to school with a brown bag lunch. The government is not getting into the business of parents here, but rather how to make school lunches both affordable and nutriticious. And perhaps if both cannot be done, which is the greater priority.

    I disagree with the first post’s assertion that anything with seeds must be a fruit. I realize it’s a subjective classification, but I have a hard time seeing tomatoes, eggplants, green peppers, string beans and corn as fruit.

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  250. assassin tim -  November 21, 2011 - 7:14 am

    OMG these guys are giving America a bad name. They always find a way to make America look retarded. last time i checked vegetables make me healthy and pizza does not make me healthy.

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  251. Shannon -  November 21, 2011 - 7:12 am

    If pizza its a vegetable, does that mean pizza’s healthy now? If so, I like this!! Now there’s a reason to like vegetables!! :D

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  252. John -  November 21, 2011 - 7:11 am

    pizza dont grow out the ground, shits got meat on it and veggies arent grown with greezy cheeze.i do know a flower we need to accept, and its kinda like spinach. :Poteere:

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  253. Carbonated Chocolate Cake -  November 21, 2011 - 7:08 am

    Whoa,whoa, whoa! Hold on everyone! I will prove that pizza is not a vegetable! First of all, pizza is basically bread with tomato sauce and cheese. Tomatos are a fruit! Cheese is a dairy product, and bread is wheat! Second, the toppings: Anchovies, sausage, pepperoni, and all those things are meats. Peppers and olives are techinally fruits. Mushrroms are a fungi, and onions are a vegetable. French fries are an unhealthy form of a vegetable. So two things in pizza are vegetables so far One of them is just a form of a vegetable. Another point is that usually you can pick what toppings you want.If there is only one vegetable on a pizza, i belive that the pizza itself cannot be called a vegetable.

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  254. Stephen Quinn -  November 21, 2011 - 7:05 am

    tomato is a fruit not a vegtable.

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  255. NB -  November 21, 2011 - 7:01 am

    To Erica, the first poster.

    I agree with the rest of your post, though I am not sure if what distinguishes a fruit from a vegetable is whether it has seeds or not. All sorts of peppers (bell peppers, jalapeno peppers) have seeds; they’re not fruits. Okra has seeds too.

    Just wanted to straighten that out.

    Good job!

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  256. Preston -  November 21, 2011 - 6:52 am

    Also pizza is a meat product ( if there is pepperoni, sausage, etc)

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  257. Preston -  November 21, 2011 - 6:49 am

    I never eat vegatables. Since congress says it is a vegatable then now all i eat is vegatables. That is dumb the tamato paste is a vegatable type but the whole pizza no. Pizza is a dairy product there is chease. I geuss pizza is a grain crust right.

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  258. Galt -  November 21, 2011 - 6:39 am

    Why is the Federal government feeding people with my money? Definitions in terms serves to detract from the core question. Both political partys are looters. I reject the premise of the entire conversation. Get out of my kitchen and my wallet.

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  259. December -  November 21, 2011 - 6:27 am

    I think it is absolutely ridiculous that pizza is now considered a vegetable. The majority of the food is made up of bread and cheese, and just because there is a small amount of tomato paste in the recipe does NOT mean that pizza is a vegetable. The only good thing about this is that when my mom says that pizza is unhealthy and I shouldn’t eat it, I can reply and say that the government considers pizza a vegetable. :)

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  260. Hannah -  November 21, 2011 - 5:37 am

    OK, firstly I think what should be said is that the pizza itself is not a vegetable, it’s just that, under certain circumstances, it provides one serving of fruit/veg. The title of the article and the way it is written is mostly a way to get people to read it.

    Secondly, I do think that’s it rather ridiculous that it can be counted, especially if this is something that schools are going to subscribe to, unless the pizza is made with its health benefits in mind and not topped with various other unhealthy things.

    @Erika- depending on how the pizza is made, the oil content may not be as high as that. I make my pizza at home from scratch (because I’m fussy about pizza) and my dough contains no oil at all. Also, I don’t pre-fry any toppings, so again, no extra oil.

    @Audrey- I haven’t made a tomato pie as yet, but I did put a layer of tomatoes in a chicken, carrot and onion pie. It was delicious.

    @Grace- Not necessarily- Baked apples, Apple strudel, Rhubarb crumble, Apple and Blackberry Pie.
    Raw Crunchy Carrots- they used to be my treat at home when I was little. Now I still think they’re wonderful, especially with a nice dip.

    @yayRayShell- pizza is not ‘mostly cheese and pepperoni’ and it’s rather saddening if that’s the only way you see it. Our pizzas at home have all sorts on including, but not limited to, mushrooms, peppers, olives, pineapple, chicken, tomatoes, cucumber (not so successful!), chilies, peas, tuna, ham, minced beef, mackerel and grapes.
    Yes, *Grapes*, and they are wonderful!
    There are also many vegetarian pizzas that have no fish or meat, just veg (or fruit masquerading as veg!)

    I apologise for the long comment- I get defensive over food

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  261. ccrow -  November 21, 2011 - 5:36 am

    “A scale performs a different function for a chef than for a personal trainer. One measures food, the other a person.”
    I beg to differ with this; in both cases the scale is measuring weight. This is like saying a tape measure becomes something different depending on what you are measuring.
    To weigh in on the fruit vs. vegetable debate- botanically speaking, tomatoes, peppers, all squashes, as well as apples, oranges, etc are all fruits(in which category one can argue about the specific type of fruit). Some fruits are classed as vegetables because of the way they are used and/or prepared. The group ‘vegetables’ includes various plant parts: root/bulb/tuber(carrot/potato/onion), stem(asparagus, kohlrabi), leaf( spinach, lettuce, collard, etc), flower/bud(artichoke, broccoli), fruit(tomato, pepper, squash), seed pod(green beans, okra), seeds(peas, beans). IMO the term ‘vegetable’ in common usage is mainly determined by how the item is prepared and in what part of a meal it is consumed. So, going by that, carrots are obviously not vegetables if they are in carrot cake!! Ai yi yi.

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  262. Jim -  November 21, 2011 - 5:35 am

    Pizza is a combination of dough, cheese and tomato sauce. It is ridiculous that because tomato sauce is on pizza that Congress says pizza is a vegetable. Give me a break.

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  263. furyjustice -  November 21, 2011 - 5:30 am

    Just because 100% of something isn’t a veggie doesn’t mean it’s automatically not a veggie. Also, if the idea of fruit is something we harvest which comes from the ground in certain times or seasons, then that is what makes that what it is… not sugar, or organics… it all becomes waste eventually. I think it’s more what you want from something not what you get from something that determines who you are and act. Therefore pizza is a veggie because if you eat it there’s a purpose in eating it, not a scientific proven fact that it isn’t or it cannot be the opposite: meat!

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  264. Back at ya Toni Pop -  November 21, 2011 - 5:23 am

    Toni Pop –

    Re:
    ” So if i put two tablespoons of tomato sauce on a congressman, does that make him a vegetable? ”

    After reading what congress said about pizza, I think the answer to your question is “Yes”, except that I don’t think you’d need to add the tomato sauce.

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  265. Jexx -  November 21, 2011 - 5:04 am

    “Idiocracy” is coming to fruition… In kind, if you classify anything with tomato sauce a vegetable, it starts a domino effect that will leave hot dogs and spaghetti Bolognese in the same category in no time…

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  266. Tabatha♥ -  November 21, 2011 - 5:01 am

    pizza is not healthy man for real. its for parties hello…..get it right!!!

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  267. Alex -  November 21, 2011 - 4:57 am

    I think even if it is a vegetable, the grease in most pizza would probably cancel it out. Like, with fried veggies or using too much ranch. I could see a veggie lovers pizza counting (especially if it’s made in a healthier way), but a meat lovers? Not really.

    Calling tomato paste a vegetable is silly. Depending on what kind of tomato paste it is, the amount of actual tomatoes in it probably varies. Similar to why people don’t consider ketchup a veggie. (I could be a bit paranoid on that, though I’ve had pizza with sauce that tasted like chemicals before…)

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  268. Ant -  November 21, 2011 - 4:50 am

    A vegetable is what food eats

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  269. Stuart -  November 21, 2011 - 4:48 am

    What a lot of rubbish; this is obviously driven by “special interest groups”. What sort of idiot would even entertain the notion of letting the law define what is or isn’t a vegetable (Ah politicians, sorry the question is answered). I suppose the really hilarious part is that a pizza is being defined as a vegetable based on the fact that it contains a certain amount of a fruit. I would really pack up laughing if it were not so sad!

    It is sad because it shows what can and is being done through big business buying US politicians. I am 75% water so can I be classified as water? Why yes; just find the bucks to pay off the politicians (sorry lobby the politicians to clarify your standpoint) and away you go!

    This is so alarming on so many levels that it makes me scared for the future; business can pay to get anything done and the law is a really bad referee! Wow!

    I notice that the health of the children has taken a back seat here; Pizzas are still bad for you, they are now just a vegetable (based on the amount of fruit it contains) that is bad for you. So; screw the kids, just keep selling Pizza; sounds just like the US.

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  270. Blair -  November 21, 2011 - 4:37 am

    Ah the tired old debate over the definition of a thing so that those who MUST follow the rules book to the letter know what to do. I can appreciate this to a certain extent. Standards are necessary when dealing with mass-production, which is a big part of the debate in this article.

    My real problem with this article is the use of the word nutritionist! Did nobody else notice this? Perhaps the tomato/pizza vs vegetable debate is too compelling? “Nutritionist” was once described to me along the same lines as a dentist calling himself a “tootheologist”! Is the correct term not “dietitian”?

    Since we’re all arguing about what proper definitions are, there’s my $0.02 :)

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  271. Carrie -  November 21, 2011 - 4:32 am

    So, in order to provide healthy meals to schoolchildren that are low in fat and sodium, Congress delcares a food that is HIGH in fat and sodium a vegetable because of a small portion of redeeming value? A company that stands to lose money by not providing pizza for school lunches has obviously contributed to Congressional campaigns to influence the outcome. This is how Washington now works. This system has become harmful to all of us, particularly children. It is just one element of the larger situation, and does not bode well for the future of this country. I find it very disheartening.

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  272. Elan -  November 21, 2011 - 4:31 am

    Define vegetable. Then you’ll know that pizza is not one.

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  273. Kia -  November 21, 2011 - 4:30 am

    adding tomato sauce to chicken makes chicken a vegetable.good news for veggies!!!

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  274. Omar -  November 21, 2011 - 4:27 am

    it is an ambiguous word but in my opinion a vegetable definitely needs to have fiber in it, which pizza doesn’t so I wouldn’t agree with calling it a vegetable.

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  275. A-18-K -  November 21, 2011 - 4:18 am

    @ Toni Pop: Totally hilarious!

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  276. Geo loves DT -  November 21, 2011 - 4:13 am

    I eat tomatoes everyday.

    Does that mean I’m a vegetable?

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  277. Andrew -  November 21, 2011 - 3:46 am

    Politians are vegetables too.

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  278. hewhosaysfish -  November 21, 2011 - 3:24 am

    Have Congress actually declared pizza a vegetable? I keep seeing these headlines and “witty” remarks claiming that they have but when I read the articles attached to these they quote Congress as only having declared that the amount of tomato paste normally found on a pizza is a vegetable. While writing this post, I went and googled the bill in question: it doesn’t even contain the word “pizza”.

    The idea that “pizza is a vegetable” seems to be something that the various commentators have derived themselves from this statement. And then used it as justification to being bemoaning/mocking the stupidity of Congress/the gluttony of Americans.

    So who *was* the first person to write/utter the words “pizza is a vegetable”?
    A proponent of this bill? A critic of the bill? A humorist?

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  279. s.n. -  November 21, 2011 - 2:24 am

    Maybe, if they serve vegetarian pizza without the cheese. Any takers?

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  280. Alex -  November 21, 2011 - 1:43 am

    Pizza is officially a vegetable because interest groups (private companies which produce the ingredients and buoyed the politicians) want that the taxpayer money reserved for the kids meals are invested in their own products instead of real vegetables.

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  281. Frank Fielder -  November 21, 2011 - 1:32 am

    Techincally, any plant (vegetation) or plant part is a vegetable. Not every vegetable is edible. All fruits are vegetables, because they are plant products) but of course, not all vegetables are fruits. Leaves, stems and roots are also types of vegetables. Pizza is made from mainly from flour that makes up the crust; flour comes from wheat, a vegetable. The next major ingredient would seem to be tomatoes, which is a fruit, but that still makes it technically a vegetable. If you add cheese and meat that still does not take away that most of it is composed of vegetables. Like putting cheese over broccoli does not make the broccoli not a vegetable. One could argue the nutritional value of this food, since it is salty and contains, as pointed out above, lots of oil (but it is vegetable oil) but it is mostly composed of edible vegetables, making it technically a vegetable product. Ketchup is also a vegetable product made from concentrated tomatoes and is rich in lycopenes which are good for you. You could argue that ketchup would not make a good staple since it contains other ingredients that may not be healthy in large quantitites, but you could not argue that is not a vegetable, since it is almost entirely composed of tomato. I know nutritionists like to divide these groups differently, but think about it. Bread is thought of as a “carb” but it is made from wheat seeds, which are vegetables. Peanut butter is also a vegetable and so is popcorn. Which inevetably brings us to cake. Cake is mostly vegetable, but the sugar content is increased to a level that makes excessive amounts unhealthy. If you backed off on the sugar and overly sweet icing, you are left with flour, milk and eggs. Sounds nutritious to me, but of course not as a single food source. None of these foods mentioned are a problem if eaten as part of a well balanced meal, and we are fortunate we live in a country where we can discuss such things, remember so many countries have people so hungry they would kill you for that peice of pizza.

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  282. Danice -  November 21, 2011 - 12:59 am

    I think annoying orange is smarter than the congress..HAHA

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  283. Rob Lewis -  November 21, 2011 - 12:49 am

    Just enjoyed a meal I cooked myself of Brussels sprouts with wild mushrooms (parasols), onions and ginger, together with brown rice. Even my 2-year-old son asked for more. Tonight, my wife will make stuffed pumpkin with walnuts and other good things. I would invite some Congressmen round for our daily vegetarian delights, but I live in Istanbul, Turkey.

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  284. Josh Liebhart -  November 21, 2011 - 12:28 am

    Pizza bases are bread, that fits into ‘Grain’ catagory

    Almost all pizzas are covered with ‘meat’ pieces

    Tomato’s are classified fruits, Tomato paste is added to all pizza’s!

    There are many pizza out there with vegtables on them but the top three is what makes a pizza. My theory is there not Vegtables!

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  285. JohnD -  November 21, 2011 - 12:28 am

    A pizza is not any one thing. It is, like a cake, a sandwich and other constructed culinary cuisine, a combination of foods which exist in nature. I believe this redefining of pizza as a vegetable is nothing short of a small move by those wishing to redefine what a living organism is, likely for purposes that are not at all rational and could net certain people a great deal of money.

    Defining a pizza as a vegetable is an irrational leap of redefinition that completely sidesteps the prerequisite need for a vegetable to be an organism. A pizza, being a combination of different organic lifeforms that have been thoroughly cooked, is not alive. It is most certainly not an organism, never mind a vegetable.

    What I’m so concerned about is why Congress is giving importance to issues such as these given the perilous state of the world.

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  286. Jed -  November 20, 2011 - 11:27 pm

    The real concern is not whether pizza is a vegetable or not, but WHY the US gov’t cares so much in the first place, which is the real harm. It’s all about lobbyists and putting money above the health of our nation.

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  287. Sarah -  November 20, 2011 - 11:08 pm

    Words cannot express the feelings I have to this stupidity. It doesn’t even matter if you eat nothing but potatoes for a year, that still isn’t healthy. Everything is okay to eat as long as it is in moderation. The day I say that pizza and carrots fall under the same food category is the day I die…

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  288. Linnea -  November 20, 2011 - 11:06 pm

    @ Jennifer — what about the many students whose parents can’t afford to feed them, and who rely entirely on the cafeteria services (who use these unhealthy guidelines to save money) to feed their children?

    And what about parents who, lacking the money to see a nutritionist, simply trust that the government guidelines are what is healthy?

    The government has a moral responsibility to regulate what a cafeteria service can and can’t get away with. No one ever said that any parent’s child has to eat school lunches. Everyone has the right to pack their own… if they can afford to.

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  289. Archon -  November 20, 2011 - 11:05 pm

    @ shaniqua

    outweigh – not, out way

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  290. Linnea -  November 20, 2011 - 11:01 pm

    In the case of a ruling on school lunches, it’s prudent to think of the situation as nutritionists do.

    Dietarily speaking, most nutritionists lump fruits and vegetables together as high fiber, low fat foods that are made mostly of water. They exclude legumes, avocados and potatoes. It also typically excludes corn.

    It also excludes the juices of fruits and vegetables. Juice generally lacks fiber. Often, it lacks any of the nutritional value of the fruit it comes from. It’s just another sugary beverage.

    Nutritionists recommend that half of the volume of the food we consume in a given day should be these high fiber, low fat, mostly water foods. This serves to reduce the number of calories consumed in a day to something approaching healthy.

    If we want our children to be healthy, two table spoons of vegetable with all of the water cooked out of it should count as a condiment, or a juice. If we continue to feed our children a high starch, high fat, low fiber diet, we will continue to see obesity rates in children on the rise.

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  291. Anna -  November 20, 2011 - 10:56 pm

    A tomato is a fruit. And to say that tomato paste is a vegetable is like saying carrot cake is a vegetable.

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  292. LarryE -  November 20, 2011 - 10:56 pm

    I was given to understand that “vegetable” was a non-scientific term generally applied to edible plants commonly used in salads – which is largely why the tomato, which is botanically a fruit, is often referred to as such.

    As for the bad rap on veggies, I think that may come at least in part from the fact that for a number of us growing up, vegetables were things that came out of a can, were boiled until they were mushy, but which we had to eat at dinner anyway.

    Oh, and Jennifer? This has nothing to do with letting or not letting “parents decide.” This is about school lunches and trying to have them meet some basic nutritional requirements. Parents who don’t like what the school is offering or really think their kids are not getting enough fats, salt, and sugar can always have their kids brown-bag their lunch.

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  293. Jennifer -  November 20, 2011 - 10:25 pm

    Let the parents decide what is best for their children’s diet, not government! Stay out of our business, Governor!

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  294. Elijah -  November 20, 2011 - 10:15 pm

    yahoo. Now i can eat pizza for the rest of my life.

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  295. John -  November 20, 2011 - 9:56 pm

    Fresh vegetables are delicious! I am a former fast-food junkie–one of the worst, and as soon as I got rid of all that pasty sugar+salt glue we put on our food (Ketchup, mayonnaise, ranch, thousand, etc.) I discovered a wealth of flavors in vegetables.

    I make my salad with lots of vegetables: Romaine, red peppers, carrots, cucumber and/or yellow squash. I took it to a potluck at work and one of the ladies took it home to her husband–a salad hater. He loved it. Like me, he learned that there are tons of exotic and delicious flavors in fresh vegetables. Flavors that your body will soon “crave,” once you get rid of all that fat we plop on our food.

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  296. Jake Ryan -  November 20, 2011 - 9:52 pm

    Tomato is either a fruit or a vegetable. As of today, there are still some deliberations on which is which. For me, a pizza is a junk food and not a vegetable. Pizza got a lot of ingridients on it that we should take into consideration. Well, maybe it depends on what type of pizza. Vegetable pizza with lots of spinach and green herbs maybe counted. YUMMY!

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  297. KillwithPie -  November 20, 2011 - 9:24 pm

    It is comforting to know Congress is concerned with the semantics of how to classify tomato paste in public school lunches. Never mind the fact that the pizzas are made from high-gluten, genetically modified, bleached and enriched white flour, or that tomatoes (like their cousin the aforementioned potato) are a Nightshade and therefore neurotoxic.

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  298. Eric -  November 20, 2011 - 9:15 pm

    I’m a vegetable.

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  299. Dana Loewen -  November 20, 2011 - 9:13 pm

    Now I finally have something smart to say to shut up people who try to say tomatoes aren’t vegetables but fruit. “Well, botanically speaking they are the fruit of the plant, but genetically, they are very closely related to the potato, and nutritionists say…”

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  300. Christy -  November 20, 2011 - 9:03 pm

    I consider vegetables to be 100% based from a plant of soil or hydroponic material.

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  301. Tobias Mook -  November 20, 2011 - 9:00 pm

    O my God. I can grow, my own pizza tree! Quick, someone had better by me a pepperoni plant.

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  302. Hi There Mate! -  November 20, 2011 - 8:55 pm

    to you,
    i really want pizza to become a vege!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    i love pizza please make it a vegetable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    from me

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  303. Emma -  November 20, 2011 - 8:34 pm

    That’s cool. You see everywhere now that vegetables aren’t very good (as in tasty good). I think that ‘vegetable’ should be something that is not classified as a berry and does not contain much sugar.

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  304. luke -  November 20, 2011 - 8:34 pm

    this is why the economy is bad. congress spent the past week debating on pizza

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  305. Daphne -  November 20, 2011 - 8:31 pm

    This would be another argument for my kid to when debating on eating pizza for breakfast. But i disagree on this.

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  306. anabanana -  November 20, 2011 - 8:24 pm

    I learned once that a fruit and vegetable are different because fruits can still ripen after being picked while vegetables only rot. That’s why tomatoes are actually fruits. Also, it just so happens that fruits are (usually) sweeter than vegetables.

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  307. Slacker5001 -  November 20, 2011 - 8:14 pm

    I’ve always considered a vegetable anything I can find in the vegetable half of the produce section or the frozen vegetable isle at the grocery store. These isle definitely do not include tomato paste, which is by far not even relatively close to a vegetable. The whole tomato paste as a vegetable has been making me laugh since my Ecology teacher has been going on about it for two days now.

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  308. Jordyn -  November 20, 2011 - 8:06 pm

    I have nothing to say about vegetables. I am going to eat the foods I like no matter if they are vegetables or not. All I am thinking of is why is Congress getting into petty arguments over the definition of vegetables? You would think that they would have more pressing matters on their hands to deal with.

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  309. grace -  November 20, 2011 - 7:55 pm

    most of the time, we cook the vegetables and eat the fruits raw

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  310. Tom -  November 20, 2011 - 7:31 pm

    Well, America’s going to shit now.

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  311. Muhammad -  November 20, 2011 - 7:30 pm

    I think that any edible product from a plant containing seeds is a fruit. A “fruit” without seeds is a vegetable.

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  312. Sam -  November 20, 2011 - 7:08 pm

    Saying that pizza is a vegetable is the equivalent of saying carrot cake, french fries, pumpkin pie, etc. are vegetables. Just because there are vegetables (the botany term of vegetable, as well as nutritional term as it is in the article) in the recipe does not justify the fact that there are unhealthy ingredients in these foods. Pizza has cheese, which is higher in fat than vegetables. It also has bread, which has carbohydrates. French fries are cut up potatoes, fried in fattening OIL. Carrot cake and pumpkin pie are loaded with sugar. All of these foods, IN MODERATION, aren’t bad for you, but to claim that pizza, a fat and carb full food, is a vegetable…? That just seems to me like Congress is telling kids to be best friends with obesity.
    Regarding the fact that vegetables have a bad rep, there are plenty of recipes out there to turn your veggies from yuck to yum. Americans just need to give the effort if they want to eat and live healthy.

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  313. Anthony -  November 20, 2011 - 7:05 pm

    w8 a minute. How does that work if tomatoes are fruits? i mean its one thing if a portion of it is vegetables, but that’s not even the case here!

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  314. Patricia -  November 20, 2011 - 6:40 pm

    Congress… I have long lost faith in that institution.

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  315. Brad -  November 20, 2011 - 6:28 pm

    What does a sausage pizza become? A fruit?

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  316. Kate -  November 20, 2011 - 6:09 pm

    That is so stupid. Pizza is not a vegetable

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  317. shaniqua -  November 20, 2011 - 5:58 pm

    this is so dumb! i can not believe that people who are educated enough to be voting in congress are deciding that pizza counts as a vegetable. yes it has some vegetable content but i think that the unhealthy aspects of pizza largely out way the beneficial ones.

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  318. Cyberquill -  November 20, 2011 - 5:54 pm

    Tomatoes are fruit. They have seeds.

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  319. Ed -  November 20, 2011 - 5:48 pm

    I like how companies have completely corrupted the system on every level. I guess my Big Mac is a vegetable since it has a tomato and my hot dog a vegetable since it has relish.

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  320. Better Captching -  November 20, 2011 - 5:37 pm

    Protip: A tomato (pronounced toe-MAY-toe) is a fruit.

    …And so are pumpkins.

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  321. MetalPrincess87 -  November 20, 2011 - 5:21 pm

    Congress is as stupid as sh**

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  322. Bill -  November 20, 2011 - 5:06 pm

    I think vegetables are people who have brain damage, and they can only breathe, not move, communicate nor respond. I think we should add them to the Children’s diet, as it’s both meat and vegetable. And will save money on meals and hospital bills.

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  323. chris alejo -  November 20, 2011 - 5:01 pm

    I think it’s ridiculous that tomato paste is nowadays considered a vegetable! Tomato paste is processed in factories and a bunch of preservatives and other stuff is added (that’s what I think). Anything that’s been messed with like that, should not be considered a vegetable. And for you congressmen, either talk to a botanist or go to the store and read the ingredients in tomato paste!

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  324. Sylvia -  November 20, 2011 - 4:57 pm

    Well then cherry cola is a fruit and vodka is a veggie!

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  325. Lillian -  November 20, 2011 - 4:47 pm

    Tomatos are fruits, and vegetables grow in the ground and are not a mixture of ingredients baked in an oven

    We learn these things in elementary school where they are now serving pizza as a vegetable.

    Everyone needs to stop being stupid- right now.

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  326. Norah -  November 20, 2011 - 4:33 pm

    This reminds me of a strategy medieval monks employed so they could eat meat in Lent. Geese were believed to turn into barnacles over winter (hence “barnacle goose” and “goose barnacle”). Barnacles live in water and must be fish.

    Ergo geese are fish. Pass the salt, frater.

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  327. Emmet -  November 20, 2011 - 4:32 pm

    So where does a Hawaiian pizza fall under? *so confused*

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  328. Devin -  November 20, 2011 - 4:31 pm

    If the tomato sauce on the pizza is counted as a vegetable shouldn’t it be counted as a fruit, as I recall, tomatoes are fruits. Pizza is not a fruit OR vegetable. Pizza is a greasy comfort food and I love pizza, but it is definately not a fruit or vegetable.

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  329. Anonymus -  November 20, 2011 - 4:18 pm

    Does it really matter if its a vegetable? Congress should focus on something IMPORTANT.

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  330. Dood -  November 20, 2011 - 4:13 pm

    That’s weird… Isn’t a tomato a fruit? How does two tablespoons OR a half cup of fruit equal a serving of vegetables?

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  331. Jeff -  November 20, 2011 - 4:09 pm

    :O

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  332. Night -  November 20, 2011 - 4:00 pm

    Congress is nuts, man… Scratch that, it’s gone BANANAS.

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  333. T. Latamire -  November 20, 2011 - 3:58 pm

    Considering that the “pizza” served in schools barely passes as pizza, how in the world can it pass as a vegetable?

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  334. vicki -  November 20, 2011 - 3:56 pm

    Wow, what a bunch of Congressional idiots…pizza declared as a vegetable?! What kind of a moron decides that just because there are two tablespoons of tomato PASTE included, it’s suddenly healthy? You’ve got to be kidding me.

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  335. Elizabeth -  November 20, 2011 - 3:54 pm

    I don’t think pizza should be considered a vegetable. For one, tomatoes are a fruit, at least scientifically speaking, and two, what about the cheese and pepperoni on the dough itself? Cheese doesn’t come from the ground, it comes from cows that produce milk, and neither does pepperoni. Seriously, people need to get their facts straight.

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  336. Martin McFly -  November 20, 2011 - 3:47 pm

    In my Junior High and High School days, both pizza and fries were served.

    Nobody ate them.

    The fries were floppy, wet, and undercooked, the pizza tasted like cardboard, and both were overpriced. I would not be terribly surprised if this is the case in the vast majority of schools offering junk food. What was *actually* popular? Baked potatoes, turkey/ham wraps, the much-coveted “make-your-own-taco” day, and yogurt parfaits.

    The real problem was that milk and juice serving sizes were so tiny and unsatisfying that most students would make the trip down the hall to the bookstore to get a 20oz soda instead. Really, who wants to spend 5 minutes with a frozen container jammed between their thighs so that they can drink a measly 6oz of low-quality orange juice?

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  337. crazy4food -  November 20, 2011 - 3:41 pm

    All I know is that this is making me hungry
    :D

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  338. Laura -  November 20, 2011 - 3:32 pm

    Pizza can’t be a vegetable. Tomatoes are fruit.

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  339. melissa -  November 20, 2011 - 3:14 pm

    i enjoy the fact that i eat vegetables a lot!haha

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  340. May Hangz -  November 20, 2011 - 2:53 pm

    Seriously? I thought vegetables were plants, and only plants. =p

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  341. Book Worm -  November 20, 2011 - 2:42 pm

    Awesome!! :D

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  342. Lauren @ Pure Text -  November 20, 2011 - 2:34 pm

    This is all very interesting. I agree that tomato, though a fruit…is also a vegetable. Hehe. As for tomato paste…I’m thoroughly unconvinced.

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  343. Vikhaari -  November 20, 2011 - 2:23 pm

    This is tough. I don’t know how to answer this though I enjoy some vegs like cauliflower, carrots, little red radish, hearts of celery on their own without anything, while broccoli, outer green celery sticks and the like I find difficult without any dressing.
    It’s been a long time that I had pizza. It was book reading ceremony in University of Tor… in September/October of 2010. However, being alone and living alone I don’t miss those…. Also I don’t miss the mini/little WHITE (icing sugar) ring doughnuts that I find and buy from certain shop/store at a very special price. I buy not just to enjoy, but to sustain survive, for I have no choice. However, this I notice many people find very amusing and get some good kicks out, even if it meant their illegal activities including invasion of privacy…wherein I reside—a supposed grand place that is very much hostile to me. Today, this very morning as I came walking to this D… Col, I had to skip, turn and avoid crushing abundance of hipped at places and scattered about other/many little/mini WHITE doughnuts on the footpath. Sorry to mention that what must be told.
    Also, … the following need to be stated:
    My friends, you see today, Sunday, November-20-11, after a while I notice it says on the right of this posting/article entitled “Is Pizza really a vegetable?” three … (or may be four, 4) having my name and a symbol that I use for my Facebook…; it states from the bottom unlike from top:
    1]“… “ [my name]participated two months ago;
    2] “… palindrome… [my name] 11/11/11” last Monday contributed;
    3] “ … Gabrielle Gifford’s relearn … [my name]” same as above&
    4] Oh, there is a another one at the very top Vamsi K…, Jakula & … [my name]” on bubbly beverage….”
    Now this leaves a serious question: what’s going on! I try to contribute each and every hot word for some time—b4, perhaps only a few days b4, during and after those 2 months of whatever it wants to note. Where are they, my contributions? Where did they go? If they be eliminated with their very sophisticated IT manipulation that would be injustice to a student as well as to the noted Dictionary.com a bona fide and serious educating institution. Some explanation is demanded. It looks there’s been a violation, which should not be excused in any shape or form.

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  344. Horace -  November 20, 2011 - 2:05 pm

    Pizza is a vegetable, and pushing the button on your remote is working out.

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  345. (name here) -  November 20, 2011 - 2:01 pm

    its funny how people call people a vegetable, meaning they don’t do anything but sit on the couch and play MW3 until MW4 comes out, but the meaning of vegetable in Latin means to be alive and active.

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  346. Claudia -  November 20, 2011 - 1:59 pm

    Pizza is not really a vegetable. Sure, it comes with tomatoes, garlic, etc. But that doesn’t mean it’s entirely a veggie. It also comes with products such as meat and cheese.. As well as the bread dough. I would think of it as a edible food with the products from many food groups. Not just a vegetable.

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  347. Taylor -  November 20, 2011 - 1:58 pm

    Pizza is not a vegetable in my book. Something that counts as a vegetable in my book is something organic that was grown in the ground, but at the same time gives healthy nutritional value. Pizza’s ingredient, tomatoes, may come from a plant, but it’s certainly not healthy, and it’s not giving you the same nutrients I believe vegetables have to give in order to be considered vegetables.

    Also, haven’t people sometimes said tomatoes are fruits? Things are very contradictory here.

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  348. Krysta -  November 20, 2011 - 1:44 pm

    I think that tomatoes should be put under the catagory vegetables because they dont fit as a fruit.

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  349. Mike -  November 20, 2011 - 1:27 pm

    Pizza is not a vegetable. Sorry, Congress.

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  350. Anonymous -  November 20, 2011 - 1:23 pm

    Tomato paste by itself, however, can probably be counted as a vegetable in a legal sense.

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  351. Anonymous -  November 20, 2011 - 1:19 pm

    Does anyone seriously think that pizza is a vegetable? Even though it contains tomato paste, it has ingredients in it that are definitely not veggies: the pizza dough (made from a grain), the cheese, and often the toppings.
    Pizza does not grow out of the ground or come from a tree. It is a man-made food product, and while it’s completely possible for it to have healthful properties derived from veggies/fruits, it should not be considered a vegetable.
    (Also, I disagree with the statement at the end of the article that vegetables “have gotten a bad rap” for being “flavorless and disgusting”. What are you, a five year old? I think most Americans would agree that vegetables can taste good.)

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  352. yayRayShell -  November 20, 2011 - 12:22 pm

    I don’t think pizza is a vegetable. It’s mostly grain in the dough and a bunch of oil on the toppings. Besides tomatoes are fruits and they’re all squashed into sauce. Ketchup is tomato sauce but it’s not a vegetable.

    I define vegetable as being healthy. Ketchup is part of an oily group.

    Pizza usually doesn’t have any veges on it– mostly cheese and pepperoni

    Pizza= not a vegetable

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  353. rinnity -  November 20, 2011 - 12:18 pm

    i have always loved my veggies! as it happens, i am not a fan of pizza lol so to declare pizza a vegetable is absolutely ridiculous.. its the combination of ingredients that make pizza a pizza. tomatoes are vegetables, not pizza! with that lazy logic we can go on to say well pizza is a dairy product because it has cheese on it. it still sounds just as absurd.

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  354. sarah -  November 20, 2011 - 12:17 pm

    WTH pizza isnt a veggie just because a man in the suit said so its grease bread and fat.

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  355. sherryyu -  November 20, 2011 - 12:10 pm

    im first again

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  356. Toni Pop -  November 20, 2011 - 12:01 pm

    So if i put two tablespoons of tomato sauce on a congressman, does that make him a vegetable?

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  357. Shannon B. -  November 20, 2011 - 11:56 am

    I like pizza when it’s homemade or from an actual pizza place. Fast food and cafeteria pizza is too greasy and disgusting. Overall, I love pizza, though it’s not the first thing on my mind when I think of “vegetable.”

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  358. Ashley -  November 20, 2011 - 11:55 am

    If anything, they should say that pizza contains a full serving of vegetables, not pizza itself is a vegetable. This is ridiculous. The day I can grow pizza in my backyard is the day it should be considered a vegetable. Until then, I don’t think so…

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  359. Sam -  November 20, 2011 - 11:54 am

    anything that tastes bad is a vegetable.

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  360. Simran K -  November 20, 2011 - 11:47 am

    i think the vegetable meaning has totally changed.
    pizza as a vegetable?
    i could live with that
    eating a pizza as a vegetable every day
    thats awesome but the name is weird now
    Vegetable?

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  361. vince -  November 20, 2011 - 11:40 am

    pizza is not a vegetable, don’t encourage the government dictionary.com

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  362. Kissy -  November 20, 2011 - 11:39 am

    I think what you meant to say is that a slice of pizza classifies as providing a source of vegetables as it has tomato sauce on it. That’s what’s really going on here. I don’t know if congress literally said, “Pizza is a vegetable,” but I think what was meant here is simply that pizza has vegetables on it. Totally different. Pizza is not a vegetable but it does have vegetables on it, even though the tomato is technically a fruit.

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  363. preeti thangi -  November 20, 2011 - 11:33 am

    i dont understand how it could be a vegetable.
    just because it has tomato sauce on it dosent mean its a vegetable
    but if it is its the best vegetable ive had

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  364. Pamela K. Hill -  November 20, 2011 - 11:32 am

    You can call a rose a basketball but, it is still a rose. Congress is crazy. It’s all an attempt to further the unhealthy meals to our school children. No one cares, they just want to make it all go away.

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  365. Kissy -  November 20, 2011 - 11:30 am

    This is absurd. I love pizza. Who doesn’t love pizza? It’s not a vegetable. The argument that it classifies as one because it has tomato sauce on it–Are you kidding me? So anything with vegetables on it is now a vegetable itself? So if you put some mashed potatoes on a steak, it’s a vegetable? Get real. What is this, really? Is this a prank? If not, perhaps this is a futile attempt to deter Americans from eating pizza since it supposedly classifies as a “vegetable” so that we may become a more fit nation as most people essentially detest vegetables. Sorry, it won’t work. Pizza is delicious. Or are we are such a fat nation that we now genuinely consider anything with vegetables on it a vegetable… for real? Come on, now.

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  366. Larry Pearson -  November 20, 2011 - 11:28 am

    This just goes to show that many in Congress are retarded. Perhaps they’re so deluded by their power that they think they’re gods. Maybe they think that they can put a baseball cap on a pig and it’ll turn into Babe Ruth?

    I find it embarrassing to be a member of a species so stupid to elect so many of these morons to public office.

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  367. Food Person -  November 20, 2011 - 11:22 am

    As it sees America debate this, Europe smacks its own head.

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  368. Audrey -  November 20, 2011 - 11:03 am

    I think that a vegetable is an edible plant that is low in sugar, and doesn’t go well in a pie. (Think about it, would you make tomato pie? I don’t think so.)

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  369. The Figure -  November 20, 2011 - 11:02 am

    I would say that fruit is the reproductive part of the plant and a vegetable is any other part of the plant that is eaten.

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  370. Karon Reiter -  November 20, 2011 - 10:59 am

    Well we know who got to Congress to nix the responsible regulations on what denotes a vegetable. Oh, there’s that word again: regulation. Something corporations detest. I imagine companies like PepsiCo that owns Pizza Hut along with Dominoes paid off our reps as they’ve been doing since REGULATIONS are so lax now that you can declare tomato paste a vegetable – and a lame ass president who will sign off on it. Shame on them both. This country is so screwed.

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  371. A-18-K -  November 20, 2011 - 10:57 am

    I always wondered why some people hated vegetables so much; I think it starts from their parents fearing they will hate it, and the children – catching on the little expressions and hints that vegetables ‘tend to be disgusting’ – they refuse to eat it. However, as I grew up, my mother never made such suggestions and showed vegetables as a good thing. She didn’t overdo giving vegetables, but neither did she make any strange remarks upon them. So as far back as I can remember, I loved vegetables, and now I am still found loving them as well as all my siblings.
    And I think that schools could try a little harder to help stop child obesity by serving better things for lunch. But all they care about is getting what’s easy and cheap. Just because tomato paste is on pizza doesn’t make it a vegetable. Just like a guy being gay and putting on a dress still doesn’t make him a girl – he still knows he’s a guy right? (Sorry, just had to) If you’re really going to get your daily veggies in, don’t go for pizza…but people make moves like that – which is why America is f-a-t.

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  372. Patrick -  November 20, 2011 - 10:56 am

    There is a typo in the link for the word “Colloquial.”

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  373. Dennis -  November 20, 2011 - 10:36 am

    First comment!

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  374. Erika -  November 20, 2011 - 10:15 am

    I think the idea of pizza bieng a vegetable is completely obsurd. For starters a tomatoe is a fruit; it has seeds (the main distinguisher between fruits and vegetables). On top of this, what is the health factorin pizza? There is more oil contained in a slice of pizza then there is tomatoe SAUCE (manufactured and filled with preservitives). What are the ratios of healthy contents to the carbs, cheese, and pepperoni? As a high school student, I feel as though this is biend passed as an excuse for the high amounts of pizza served everyday at a public school. If they do pass this what are the health benefits? what are the disadvantages? As weight becomes abigger preblem in the United States, I dont think widening the description of vegetables to non-healthy foods will contribute to this problem. Why makeit acceptable for people to pig out on a dish that does not have the same benefits as a salad yet are catagorized together?

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